Lean Mass Cycle Options

**jay007** · 12-22-2015, 10:29 PM

Stats; 5'6, 195, 11% BF, last cycle
I'm weighting my options on a few possible cycles. Looking to run an 8-10 week cycle for lean mass and trim. I have tried each compound in different cycles but not stacked as below. The questions I have are 1)would you make any changes to each cycle 2)which would promote the most lean muscle growth and trim me down a bit more? I might seem all over the place and have been search for days to critique myself before asking for help.

Option 1
Test P 150mg EOD
NPP 200mg 3xWeek

Option 2
Test E 300mg 2xweek
Tren E 25omg 2xweek

Option 3
Test P 150mg EOD
Tbol 50mg ED
Var 50mg ED

**TheTaxMan** · 12-23-2015, 12:44 AM

All will provide lean mass if your diet is in check, your diet will dictate the gains, so any of those cycles would work.

Option 3 you have 2 orals so pretty stressful on the liver, id go option 1 or 2, if option 2 do you need 500mg tren ? How many times you used tren and at what doses?

**i_SLAM_cougars** · 12-23-2015, 12:54 AM

Option 2 says 250mg of tren . That seems like an okay beginner dose

**TheTaxMan** · 12-23-2015, 02:06 AM

My bad, i woke up this morning pie eyed lol, thought it said 500mg
Good spot SLAM

**jay007** · 12-23-2015, 07:46 AM

I have used tren before at 100mg EOD stacked with prop 100mg EOD.
Seems to be a lot of back and forth on wether the tren should be stacked higher than the test. Also for option 1 are those good dosages?
Again I'm looking to run 8-10 weeks.
With a good 3 month clear out before my next cycle which will be trenA, Prop and var

**BeeStung** · 12-23-2015, 09:02 AM

people say that 250-300mg of tren a week is good so would test E @ 500mg be good with it or should the test be lower? i hate to jump in on your tread like this but i didnt want to start another one for one question

**TheTaxMan** · 12-23-2015, 10:36 AM

Its personal preference to be honest.

Some prefer same test same tren
Some prefer higher test lower tren
Some prefer lower test higher tren

You will know whats best for you after you have tried each option over the years.

@jay i think option 1 is good doseages, 500-600mg of nandrolone per week is a good solid dose imo

**jay007** · 12-23-2015, 01:37 PM

I wanted to add an oral either var or tbol
Tbol would help with lean mass and bar would help trim some fat. If I decided to add either what would dosage and weeks to administer be

**jay007** · 12-23-2015, 10:05 PM

Bump

**TheTaxMan** · 12-24-2015, 03:23 AM

Either oral will aid lean mass if your diet is correct

Anavar 6-8 weeks at 50mg ED
OR
Tbol 4-6 weeks 20mg ED for a "boost", or up to 40mg ED

Do a bit research to decide your tbol dose, there big gaps in general preferences

**jay007** · 12-24-2015, 10:24 AM

What weeks should they be added. In the beginning , middle or end?

**TheTaxMan** · 12-24-2015, 10:39 AM

Personal choice,

some before front loading/kickstart,
some prefer back loading,

some prefer pulsing an oral which means you run the oral then when you have sides you stop it for the length of time you were on, for example 8 days in and your bloating then take 8 days off then go back on for 8 days etc (not seen many pulse with anavar though, not many get sides with anavar so i guess no need to pulse)

**jay007** · 12-24-2015, 02:04 PM

Could you run the tool for the first 4-6 weeks and then add anavar weks 7-on
Also I'm current,y on trt. Should I continue my trt while on cycle? And do I need to add hcg or pct t. Will continue my trt after or during cycle

**Kyle1337** · 12-24-2015, 02:11 PM

If you are doing test with your cycle already, you do not need to add TRT into the cycle. If you are already on TRT, I'm not sure you need HCG during cycle as your test is already screwed. However, I can't say 100%. Hopefully someone will confirm.

**TheTaxMan** · 12-24-2015, 02:56 PM

If your on TRT you dont need to do a PCT.
After your cycle, just resume to TRT dose

Running Tbol for 4-6 weeks then Anavar straight after for however long is going to put a lot of stress on your liver man, just choose one oral only and follow what i said above.

HCG can be used on your cycle regardless if one is on TRT, i dont know if you need to use it though, hopefuly a vet can clear that question up for you, if not, ask that question in the TRT section
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**jay007** · 12-24-2015, 07:46 PM

Thanks fellas

**jay007** · 01-07-2016, 08:52 AM

What days should I run the NPP

**TheTaxMan** · 01-07-2016, 10:15 AM

In your first post you said you were going to run the NPP every other day?

Which means

Monday
Wednesday
Friday
Sunday
Tuesday
Thursday
Saturday

And so on....

Notice the days are never the same at EOD shots

**NACH3** · 01-07-2016, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Kyle1337

If you are doing test with your cycle already, you do not need to add TRT into the cycle. If you are already on TRT, I'm not sure you need HCG during cycle as your test is already screwed. However, I can't say 100%. Hopefully someone will confirm.

Many/most run HCG on TRT... It's either a 100iu ed protocol.... Or 250iu 2-3x wkly(don't exceed 1000iu wkly unless directed by your doc