The Q and A

[clarky.]

FFS jimmy i don't go in there much like most of yous because of the madness. However i've been in a few times lately and ffs jimmy the posts are just fvcking crazy it just drives me mad that these ppl are just taking this and that from the word of these fvcking dealers. just mad mate i just had to have a rant.

[TheTaxMan]

There are a lot of desperate, naive and vulnerable people out there and steroid dealers will take advantage of that.

Me and my wife were just talking about DNP and she cant believe people would take it given the risks and i told her theres dumb people out there (i know a few fat girls local to me that dont even ask questions, if you gave them some pills and said you will lose weight on these, they will gobble them up without asking any questions or doing research)

Its pretty sad to see really, i dont know why people wouldnt spend hours researching and asking questions before taking one persons word (especialy the person selling them it) on something and start putting drugs in their bodies.

[clarky.]

Aye tax DNP what a very dangerous thing it it yet we still read thread with ppl saying ohh it's great i lost such and such madness. Not a clue what it's really doing to them.

[DSS]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...iet-pills.html

Seen this the other day.

[Trapology]

Gym obsessed dad given hours to live after cooking his insides with diet pills

Seen this the other day.

Thats insane

[DSS]

It was the removing of the leg muscle got me. Near gagged looking at pic.

[kelkel]

There are a lot of desperate, naive and vulnerable people out there and steroid dealers will take advantage of that.

Me and my wife were just talking about DNP and she cant believe people would take it given the risks and i told her theres dumb people out there (i know a few fat girls local to me that dont even ask questions, if you gave them some pills and said you will lose weight on these, they will gobble them up without asking any questions or doing research)

Its pretty sad to see really, i dont know why people wouldnt spend hours researching and asking questions before taking one persons word (especialy the person selling them it) on something and start putting drugs in their bodies.

You should have been around before the internet. The lack of information was amazing. As was the misinformation.

[DROY]

I am constantly surprised and discouraged when I see the quantity of people who start taking steroids or PEDs without doing the required research beforehand. Then they come on the forums with cycles that make no sense, no PCT, no HCG etc, or they have started a cycle and are in trouble due to lack of information. I researched for about 8 months before my first cycle and even then I learned a few things during the cycle. People have to start being more responsible. This isn't kids' candy, these are compounds affecting how our bodies function (or toxic chemicals in the case of DNP), and it is critical in my mind to do the research beforehand in order to be able to evaluate the risk/return according to the individual's goals. Without knowledge there can be no informed decision, and the potential for long term damage is significant.
On another note we can't blame the suppliers. Their job is to provide a commodity, and it is the individuals job to insure that the commodity he wants responds to his requirements. The supplier is not responsible to confirm that the client has done his research.

[Trapology]

I am constantly surprised and discouraged when I see the quantity of people who start taking steroids or PEDs without doing the required research beforehand. Then they come on the forums with cycles that make no sense, no PCT, no HCG etc, or they have started a cycle and are in trouble due to lack of information. I researched for about 8 months before my first cycle and even then I learned a few things during the cycle. People have to start being more responsible. This isn't kids' candy, these are compounds affecting how our bodies function (or toxic chemicals in the case of DNP), and it is critical in my mind to do the research beforehand in order to be able to evaluate the risk/return according to the individual's goals. Without knowledge there can be no informed decision, and the potential for long term damage is significant.
On another note we can't blame the suppliers. Their job is to provide a commodity, and it is the individuals job to insure that the commodity he wants responds to his requirements. The supplier is not responsible to confirm that the client has done his research.

Its like the game of telephone except for the fact the message was never good to begin with.

People over estimate how people use the internet and how much they know about it. Most people just use social media and basic googling skills. I cant tell you how many times id get frustrated and say something like "if you dont believe me look it up" and id get a response along the lines of "thats safe? dont the feds monitor that stuff? Man im not looking that up on my phone/pc"

[Trapology]

And the downside of PEDs is they work, I know that sounds ass backward but you really can do just about anything and get some kind of result, especially if youre stuffing your face with dbol or taking 1g a week of some kind of oil

So if the average joe sees something is working im sure hes just gonna take his buddys word for it

[DROY]

And the downside of PEDs is they work, I know that sounds ass backward but you really can do just about anything and get some kind of result, especially if youre stuffing your face with dbol or taking 1g a week of some kind of oil

So if the average joe sees something is working im sure hes just gonna take his buddys word for it

Yeah, I know. I tend to be a sceptic in a lot of things and I need to confirm things myself. Someone's word wouldn't be enough for me, but I also know that many people aren't critical thinkers. It is unfortunate in that this lack of knowledge, and by extension poor performance and/or health problems, are what gives PEDs a bad name.

[Trapology]

Yeah, I know. I tend to be a sceptic in a lot of things and I need to confirm things myself. Someone's word wouldn't be enough for me, but I also know that many people aren't critical thinkers. It is unfortunate in that this lack of knowledge, and by extension poor performance and/or health problems, are what gives PEDs a bad name.

It doesnt cost anything to think but people dont do it anyway and thats the problem and youre 100% right

[charger69]

I was one of those people that you are referring to. I thought that i did my research however there is alot of mis information out there and you don't know what you don't know.
The problem that i had was that there were bits and pieces and I was not able to link all of the bits and pieces together. You guys are the one that linked it all together and I thank you.
I didn't know that there was actually a forum like this. It probably saved me from myself..... And the incorrect advice and cycles previously given.
THANK YOU. You guys do make a difference!

[clarky.]

Gym obsessed dad given hours to live after cooking his insides with diet pills

Seen this the other day.

Very lucky man.

[Simon1972]

I was one of those people that you are referring to. I thought that i did my research however there is alot of mis information out there and you don't know what you don't know.
The problem that i had was that there were bits and pieces and I was not able to link all of the bits and pieces together. You guys are the one that linked it all together and I thank you.
I didn't know that there was actually a forum like this. It probably saved me from myself..... And the incorrect advice and cycles previously given.
THANK YOU. You guys do make a difference!

You are different, alot of guys sign up and want to know how to take excess amounts safely, when told they can't, they get into hysterics and throw a fit. Ego gets in the way. can you imagine signing up to a steroid forum after deciding to do a cycle only to be told by the members to not do a cycle?
Some guys can't hack it.

[DeadlyD]

Sometimes I think I ask too many questions! I read articles and hundreds of posts from different BB forums before I finally joined this forum in 2012 I believe, i waited almost 2 years before I actually touched steroids with the help and knowledge of the people on this site! And I truly believe that's why I haven't done any permanent damage to my body! I learn something new here every day, thanks to all the vets and other knowledgeable people!

[jimmyinkedup]

FFS jimmy i don't go in there much like most of yous because of the madness. However i've been in a few times lately and ffs jimmy the posts are just fvcking crazy it just drives me mad that these ppl are just taking this and that from the word of these fvcking dealers. just mad mate i just had to have a rant.

This is the place to blow off some steam buddy so have at it!
The thing that keeps me going at times are posts like the one above this one and a couple others in this thread. The message DOES get through to some and those people are the ones that make it all worthwhile man.
That being said as you mentioned the q&a is an area we all need a break from occasionally!

[TheTaxMan]

What makes me laugh is people do the research/ask questions half way through the cycle or at the end of their cycle when they run into trouble. All this could already have been avoided with some common sense

[songdog]

For me any way its the ones who come for advice and dont want too listen.They already know wat they are going too do and want someone to say its ok.

[NACH3]

For me any way its the ones who come for advice and dont want too listen.They already know wat they are going too do and want someone to say its ok.

Very true... Why ask then, right?!?!

How ya been song?

[ghettoboyd]

I'm to the point in the q&a where I only answer someone's question if I can share my own personal experiences if applicable I'm all done with all the parroting the basic info that should already be obvious with like 10min of actual research...I realize that the things that are parroted need to be said but it gets so old I leave it to the new guys who are trying to establish themselves...unfortunately I don't post much anymore mostly just read...

[Trapology]

I wonder what the % is of people who come here asking or advice, and then actually follow it

[clarky.]

I wonder what the % is of people who come here asking or advice, and then actually follow it

That would be interesting to know.

[73rr]

I wonder what the % is of people who come here asking or advice, and then actually follow it

I would only assume a bad %. Only from being on here reading. As many have said. There are a small portionof us that realized that we are not ready for aas and stick around for all the great help. (That way we can truly be ready for aas at some point)

The majority just get pissed that your not giving them a "source" or that your telling them the truth.