growth hormone

**seansenator** · 01-12-2016, 09:48 AM

very interested to hear about anyones experiences with hgh.....good or bad...read lots of literature that has many positive things to say and few negatives

**Trapology** · 01-12-2016, 09:57 AM

Ive took it a few times to help with leaning out
i believe i accomplished my mission

**Juced_porkchop** · 01-12-2016, 12:57 PM

Biggest concern it fake or tainted hgh. the hgh market is not the best. better off with some peptides and aas in most cases IMO.

but good hgh is great! run atleast 5mo IMO and 7-9mo even better. dose can vary but i rec around 5iu ed.

**marcus300** · 01-12-2016, 01:37 PM

It did amazing things with it, I stayed on it for 3 yrs straight once but been one and off it for over 20yrs.

Don't touch generic hgh imho and seek pharmacy grade only.

There are many protocols but starting of on small amounts over a long period time is best and also ran in conjunction with aas.

**kelkel** · 01-12-2016, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

There are many protocols but starting of on small amounts over a long period time is best and also ran in conjunction with aas.

Absolutely. I ran 1-2 IU's for longer periods of time and had great results with it. A simple 1 IU made a big difference in my IGF-1 level. Now I'm referring to pharm grade here.

**leanmachine6** · 01-12-2016, 03:05 PM

would 2 iu's be enough over a long period of time to see muscle benefits if you were using anabolics along side with it at times too ?
not stealing anyones thread here but im very interested in peoples thoughts on say running 2IU's pharma grade hgh over say 8 months and say doing 2 10 week cycles in there too. my plan now is starting 1iu for about 2 weeks then upping it to 2ius and in that time using anabolics too.

**marcus300** · 01-12-2016, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by leanmachine6

would 2 iu's be enough over a long period of time to see muscle benefits if you were using anabolics along side with it at times too ?
not stealing anyones thread here but im very interested in peoples thoughts on say running 2IU's pharma grade hgh over say 8 months and say doing 2 10 week cycles in there too. my plan now is starting 1iu for about 2 weeks then upping it to 2ius and in that time using anabolics too.

In my opinion no 2ius wont build any kind of muscle tissue over 8 months.

**charger69** · 01-12-2016, 09:55 PM

I was told that hgh must be taken long term and a minimum of 4iu's. Decided not to use due to the costs involved.

**Mp859** · 01-19-2016, 01:05 AM

I run in between 4-5iu as long as I can afford. Love it!! This is pharm grade and this is starting my 2nd year. I'm in love with the stuff personally, i was told by palumbo and another local pro that I don't need anymore than 5iu as long as it is legit.

**mike198** · 02-16-2016, 08:51 PM

I really wanted to use HGH with my upcoming test cycle. I get all pharm grade stuff as I have a script (I'm not on TRT though). It was just too expensive for a paltry 2IU's a day. Do the peptides really work as some claim? If so, which one would be best for promoting sleep and gains? So far I'm thinking ipamorelin

**kelkel** · 02-17-2016, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by mike198

I really wanted to use HGH with my upcoming test cycle. I get all pharm grade stuff as I have a script (I'm not on TRT though). It was just too expensive for a paltry 2IU's a day. Do the peptides really work as some claim? If so, which one would be best for promoting sleep and gains? So far I'm thinking ipamorelin

I would think Sermorelin.

**NACH3** · 02-17-2016, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

I would think Sermorelin.

^^ this is what most clinics use if you can't afford RX GH(costs too much imo) for not real RX GH... And you'll most likely only get 2ius if your 200+ lbs... if you can afford it I'd run it for life!

**mike198** · 02-17-2016, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

^^ this is what most clinics use if you can't afford RX GH(costs too much imo) for not real RX GH... And you'll most likely only get 2ius if your 200+ lbs... if you can afford it I'd run it for life!

Run the sermorelin for life?

Running HGH for life would be awesome

**max738** · 02-19-2016, 03:34 AM

I ran saizen for 4 years 2iu 6 on 1 off 15 years ago gave me a good sense of well being and slept good did get pretty lean back then and I'm starting back on it so yes I like lt

**ironhardempress** · 02-19-2016, 08:27 AM

i do not know anyone in the pharmacy biz. How does one go about getting pharm grade HGH? I can afford it if i can find it. There is a clinic in DAllas, but i dont know anything about it.

**jstone** · 03-17-2016, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by ironhardempress

i do not know anyone in the pharmacy biz. How does one go about getting pharm grade HGH? I can afford it if i can find it. There is a clinic in DAllas, but i dont know anything about it.

You just need to find a source for it. Not many people are going to give up ther source though. If you look around you can find a couple places selling pharm grade gh. You just need to put in the time.

**NACH3** · 03-18-2016, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by mike198

Run the sermorelin for life?

Running HGH for life would be awesome

It all depends on your IGF-1 numbers(some report big increases in IGF-1 if they're IGF was in fact in the top end range)

Id surely go with RX/PHARMA GH anyday over a GHRP!

**oldnsedentary** · 04-03-2016, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by jstone

You just need to find a source for it. Not many people are going to give up ther source though. If you look around you can find a couple places selling pharm grade gh. You just need to put in the time.

There are all kinds of places selling pharma hGH. Odds are that they are all counterfeit. You will have no way of knowing. Probably just generic Chinese in a fancy label and box.

**jstone** · 04-04-2016, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by oldnsedentary

There are all kinds of places selling pharma hGH. Odds are that they are all counterfeit. You will have no way of knowing. Probably just generic Chinese in a fancy label and box.

I can guarantee the source I speek of are not doing this. I know of a few sources with pharma GH. One I trust enough to back anyone that were to order from him with a double cash back guarantee. I have only given this source to one member. He said the whole process was easy peasy and the seros were identical to the one he had been using for years. These come straight from the HIV patients getting the kits.

I do agree that a lot of sources are selling fakes, but I have found a few small sources dealing in pharmaceutical items. Many countries dont have the laws like we do so its easy for them to get pharm grade products.

**-Ender-** · 04-06-2016, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by jstone

I can guarantee the source I speek of are not doing this. I know of a few sources with pharma GH. One I trust enough to back anyone that were to order from him with a double cash back guarantee. I have only given this source to one member. He said the whole process was easy peasy and the seros were identical to the one he had been using for years. These come straight from the HIV patients getting the kits.

I do agree that a lot of sources are selling fakes, but I have found a few small sources dealing in pharmaceutical items. Many countries dont have the laws like we do so its easy for them to get pharm grade products.

The list of people making this claim is long, and they normally do not have the best intentions.

**marcus300** · 04-06-2016, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by -Ender-

The list of people making this claim is long, and they normally do not have the best intentions.

I know sounds like advertising and utter bullsh1t to suck members in

**jstone** · 04-06-2016, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

I know sounds like advertising and utter bullsh1t to suck members in

Ask around and see hkw many people I have given sources to. Theres only one here still and theres only 1 more. I have even kept members from here from being burned kn other source boards. I only helped the member recently because he was being raped on price. He is more than happy. The others that have asked for sources I have ignored. Im just trying to show people finding sources is not that hard.

I depsise anyone that would rip anyone off. I worked as a rep on a source board, and he turned scammer. Me along with a couple other sources replaced everything. Close to 2k in gear came straight out of my pocket, and I was paid less than 10 percent of what I was owed. One thing I can guarantee is I will never be involved with ripping people off.

Im going to pm the member I hooked up with the serostim connection and have him tell you if I was involved with ripping him off.

**marcus300** · 04-06-2016, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by jstone

Ask around and see hkw many people I have given sources to. Theres only one here still and theres only 1 more. I have even kept members from here from being burned kn other source boards. I only helped the member recently because he was being raped on price. He is more than happy. The others that have asked for sources I have ignored. Im just trying to show people finding sources is not that hard.

I depsise anyone that would rip anyone off. I worked as a rep on a source board, and he turned scammer. Me along with a couple other sources replaced everything. Close to 2k in gear came straight out of my pocket, and I was paid less than 10 percent of what I was owed. One thing I can guarantee is I will never be involved with ripping people off.

Im going to pm the member I hooked up with the serostim connection and have him tell you if I was involved with ripping him off.

Do not give out sources or you will be banned, I understand your concern myself have just been took for 5k worth of hgh but don't come on here giving sources out under any circumstances

**marcus300** · 04-06-2016, 12:14 PM

Please guy dont except any sources from anyone from this site, most are fake and most will take your money be warned.

**DGenRit** · 04-06-2016, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Please guy dont except any sources from anyone from this site, most are fake and most will take your money be warned.

Marcus - I agree that MOST maybe fake but it would be a disservice to scare people into thinking that ALL are fake. As with most things, there are exceptions to the rule. As it turns out, JSTONE is that exception - at least as it relates to me. I did get a referral from him and it turned out to be a solid referral at that. I've been on SEROS for over 5 years or so and was paying more than I should have been paying. I am now paying a fair price and can attest that the goods are legit - at least as far as anyone can confirm without picking them up directly from the lab that makes them.

In addition to comparing them to the originals I have been using for 5+ years, I confirmed with my HRT clinic that had been selling me the other kits for much more - they even confirmed they were legit - and they would hav eloved to tell me they were fake so they could keep selling me their kits for much more. Blood work will come in the next 2 weeks as well to further confirm. That's all I have to say on this. Not promoting or endorsing anyone here - and please don't message me with any source requests - I only buy for my personal consumption.

**GirlyGymRat** · 04-06-2016, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by mike198

Run the sermorelin for life?

Why not???

**jstone** · 04-06-2016, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Do not give out sources or you will be banned, I understand your concern myself have just been took for 5k worth of hgh but don't come on here giving sources out under any circumstances

Wont happen again, seems like if someone does a source check they are essentially doing the same thing. I came here before I had the connections I have now, and im not here to give them away to everyone and there brother. I just saw that a member was being raped, and with a small amount of my time I could help him. Thats what we as a community should be doing, and I dont mean handing out sources to anybody who asks.

I know that most people are trying to scam other's, and you are trying to protect members. With this not being a source board, but vets doing source checks along with the ugl section leaves a grey area. Doing a source check is essentially giving someone a source. They may have found it on there own, but confirming they are ok is essentially giving out a source. I want to make it very clear I have zero problems with you, and take none of this personally. Reading your posts along with a few other members is the only reason I come here. I very rarely even log on, because all I do is read.

The way I have understood the rules is that helping member with sources was ok as long as it was not out in the open forum. If I would have known that hooking someone up with a source was not to be done at all I wouldn't have. The other posts were not an attempt to solicit other members into ordering from a source. I gained nothing from helping DGenRit, and giving that source to lots of people would mean no kits for me. My posts of late have been to tell members that all the pharma GH is not fake, and if you do your research you can find what your looking for.

**marcus300** · 04-07-2016, 01:09 AM

Please don't give out sources - its against the rules

and members don't trust anyone giving you sources.

Thank you

**Far from massive** · 04-12-2016, 03:43 PM

First, I do not represent the board or its policies in any way,

That said there is another issue at play here, IMHO buying HGH from Aids patients is some pretty sketchy shit, as its all the result of diversion of a product prescribed for another. Much of it is paid for with public dollars and on top of that you are pimping out an AIDs patient who needs it to stay alive.

Not really trying to judge anyone just stating why I would not do it and why I think its a lot worse (from a board perspective) than sourcing AAS.

Just my 2 cents..

**jstone** · 04-12-2016, 06:25 PM

I agree with most of your points, but all pharm grade products we get are diverted in one way or another. Diversion is diversion. Most of the HIV patients get the kits to sell, because the advancement in drugs has made hgh relatively marginal for treating the wasting disease.

They get them, because they know there is a market for them. Im sure it also helps support there other habits. Nobody is really pimping out the HIV patients, and the vast majority of people buying seros never deals with an HIV patient.

I understand that its just your opinion, and everyone is entitled to there opinion. I have a similar opinion, but slightly different. I wish my tax money wasnt paying for the GH, but I cant change that. So if im already paying for it, I might as well take advantage of it. If I were to buy genos, or saizen they're all diverted in one way or another.

I cant afford the seros, so I dont buy them, but if I could I would. I completely respect your opinion, and understand that the board perspective is what it is.