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    Blackmanju is offline New Member
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    Slight muscle paralysis, extreme pain and weakness in legs, hip flexors etc.

    I tried to search first and couldn't find anything on this particular problem.

    After I inject test, beginning the next day and for several days afterwards I feel slight paralysis in my toes and shins. When I try to move them the muscles hurt extremely bad - feel like they're being torn apart. It will move into and affect my calves, quads and especially my hip flexors. It gets so bad that I cant raise my knees due to weakness and extreme pain. Sometimes I'll even feel this in my lower back, abdominals and arms and as high as my delts. The symptoms are very much like HypoKPP except all movements in affected muscles causes extreme pain.

    Does anyone here have any idea what this is and how to treat it? This is all rather recent as I've done many cycles in the past with no problems whatsoever? Has anyone else experienced this before? If so, what did you do to treat it? I don't want to stop using and lose all my gains.

    Thank you all in advance!

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    I'm sure some one will pop in with a more definitive analysis, but from a common sense standpoint "paralysis, extreme pain etc vs keeping gains" seems like a real no brainer; STOP THE INJECTIONS.

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    Wow, Ok. I thought we were all smart enough here that I wouldn't have to spell out each and every detail.
    Yes, I did stop quite a while ago. I only mentioned that I didn't want to have to stop using so I wouldn't lose everything I've gained so far. Got it?
    I also went to the doctor who took blood tests, said everything looks normal and had no idea what was causing the symptoms. I'm waiting for an appointment with a specialist. Got that too?
    I posted here to gain some knowledge and insight so it would help with the process when I visit the specialist. Still with me?
    I'm also very curious to know if anyone else experienced this and what the treatment was. I hope I didn't lose you...

    So, thank you very much for that smart-ass response. It was a lot of help. That was sarcasm, in case it went over your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmanju
    Wow, Ok. I thought we were all smart enough here that I wouldn't have to spell out each and every detail. Yes, I did stop quite a while ago. I only mentioned that I didn't want to have to stop using so I wouldn't lose everything I've gained so far. Got it? I also went to the doctor who took blood tests, said everything looks normal and had no idea what was causing the symptoms. I'm waiting for an appointment with a specialist. Got that too? I posted here to gain some knowledge and insight so it would help with the process when I visit the specialist. Still with me? I'm also very curious to know if anyone else experienced this and what the treatment was. I hope I didn't lose you... So, thank you very much for that smart-ass response. It was a lot of help. That was sarcasm, in case it went over your head.
    Easy there. Viking was trying to help you to the best of his ability. And from what you stated in your first post, it was unclear to me as well whether you stopped or not. Let's be respectful.

    I also am unsure of what's causing the problem, but my best guess would be that you hit a nerve and the pain/paralysis will subside within a few more days. See your specialist and let us know how you get along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmanju
    Wow, Ok. I thought we were all smart enough here that I wouldn't have to spell out each and every detail. Yes, I did stop quite a while ago. I only mentioned that I didn't want to have to stop using so I wouldn't lose everything I've gained so far. Got it? I also went to the doctor who took blood tests, said everything looks normal and had no idea what was causing the symptoms. I'm waiting for an appointment with a specialist. Got that too? I posted here to gain some knowledge and insight so it would help with the process when I visit the specialist. Still with me? I'm also very curious to know if anyone else experienced this and what the treatment was. I hope I didn't lose you... So, thank you very much for that smart-ass response. It was a lot of help. That was sarcasm, in case it went over your head.
    So as not to turn this into a needless pissing contest, next time try and not speak in the present tense, as you did initially, and include some of the details in your following post in your initial post so that it becomes more clear to not just me, but others. It reads as if you are currently still injecting no mater the cost.

    Good luck with finding a solution.
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    Yeah, I can see what I wrote and where the misunderstanding can take place. My bad. Your statement, Viking, came across as condescending and degrading, implying that I don't have common sense. It's now clear that wasn't your intent but that is how it came across. We all should be more careful how we communicate here as anything we say can be taken the wrong way. Water under the bridge... And thank you, guys for wishing me luck!

    Musclestack, this problem has happened after several different injections in different places of the buttocks and delts. The paralysis is very slight, not the numbness "I can't feel my legs," type, but the type where my muscles are reluctant to move and its painful when they do. Have you ever ran down hill and had your shins react to where you can't raise your toes? Same feeling, except the added pain. The pain is also the same kind of pain, yet more intense, as when you blast your legs and later it feels like you're pulling your muscles when you try to stand up from being on the toilet - for lack of a better example.

    The closest the doctors have come up with is HypoKPP. Except that HKPP doesn't have the pain, just weakness and slight paralysis.

    Like I said, this only happens after an injection and last for about three days. This is vexing because this hasn't happened in the past with past cycles and I was using the same gear and brand as before. Nothing has changed. This is why I thought I'd throw out the feelers to see if anyone else has experienced this and if they have found the proper treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmanju
    Yeah, I can see what I wrote and where the misunderstanding can take place. My bad. Your statement, Viking, came across as condescending and degrading, implying that I don't have common sense. It's now clear that wasn't your intent but that is how it came across. We all should be more careful how we communicate here as anything we say can be taken the wrong way. Water under the bridge... And thank you, guys for wishing me luck! Musclestack, this problem has happened after several different injections in different places of the buttocks and delts. The paralysis is very slight, not the numbness "I can't feel my legs," type, but the type where my muscles are reluctant to move and its painful when they do. Have you ever ran down hill and had your shins react to where you can't raise your toes? Same feeling, except the added pain. The pain is also the same kind of pain, yet more intense, as when you blast your legs and later it feels like you're pulling your muscles when you try to stand up from being on the toilet - for lack of a better example. The closest the doctors have come up with is HypoKPP. Except that HKPP doesn't have the pain, just weakness and slight paralysis. Like I said, this only happens after an injection and last for about three days. This is vexing because this hasn't happened in the past with past cycles and I was using the same gear and brand as before. Nothing has changed. This is why I thought I'd throw out the feelers to see if anyone else has experienced this and if they have found the proper treatment.
    No harm, no foul brother. A lot can get lost in translation in terms of tone on a message board. I meant no disrespect, just concern that you didn't place gains over your immediate health is all. I see that is not the case at all with your rebuttal.

    I truly hope you're able to find a solution here, def some very smart cats that can hopefully help offer some solutions for you to consider with your issues. It does not sound pleasant to deal with at all.

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    Blackmanju, I didn't see it in any of your above posts (and maybe I missed it), but I'm assuming you're using a UGL brand? The problem with this is that we can never be sure if we're getting exactly what we're expecting. Even if you trust your source, mistakes can be made on their end. Is this a new batch you ordered or are you using Test that was left over from a previous cycle? I suppose the first thing I would do is, if you know anyone else who is using the same batch, contact them and see if they're experiencing similar issues. If it's leftover from a previous cycle and it's the same batch you've used before, then that is very strange. How does the oil look? Any crystals in the mix?

    Hope you get sorted out quickly.

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    Cant see how a few hormones would do what you stated.
    Agreed on the UGL, have you tested diff brands or pharma test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking13 View Post
    No harm, no foul brother. A lot can get lost in translation in terms of tone on a message board. I meant no disrespect, just concern that you didn't place gains over your immediate health is all. I see that is not the case at all with your rebuttal.
    You handled that much better than I was about to. His initial reply made my blood boil.

    OP: The only thing that comes to mind is "test-flu" (be it from etiocholanolone or just pyrogens) , except that usually manifests itself more like a normal flu with chills, joint and muscle pain, etc. No paralysis, paresthesia, etc.

    I would just assume that the gear is tainted and replace it with something that doesn't give you horrible side effects.
    And don't ever reply to another member like you did earlier. Even if they are being a smart-ass (which he wasn't).

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    I just picked up some test cyp in a different brand along with a vial of TNE. I injected the TNE on Thursday with mild effects, however, I injected the cyp yesterday and today I'm paying for it.
    This is telling me that the problem lies in my own body but like Mr. BB says, I don't see how hormones can cause this. Still at square one...

    Thanks for the input everyone.

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