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    Bman001 is offline New Member
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    Best cycle for clean mass

    My stats:
    Age:23
    Weight:180
    Bf:12-13%
    I've done 2 cycles of deca /test/dbol . Put on about 20-25lbs each time.
    Test250/ml 500mgs weekly
    Deca250/ml 250mgs weekly
    Dbol tabs 50mgs/daily 4weeks
    AI- arimidex eod

    Also proper pct after each for after doing 2 cycles

    Over the past 4 years I went from being a skinny 145ish to 180ish. After I get off cycle I loose quite a bit of size from the deca water weight. I am still not happy, and ready to go again. This time I want to know the best clean mass cycle to go with, but I want it to be safe, and able to keep most size after. No tren ace I can't do the eod injections.

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    You can clean bulk with any cycle, its all about clean diet

    If your getting extreme bloat on nandrolone (deca ) or any cycle for that matter, your diet or water intake are poor.

    Do you run an AI on cycle?
    Last edited by TheTaxMan; 01-22-2016 at 02:44 AM.

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    As TaxMan said, no cycle is "cutting" or "bulking", it all comes down to the diet applied whilst cycling.
    I suspect, that because you're losing most of the weight afterward, you are relying on the gear to gain weight, and your diet is insufficient to maintain any of this.

    Also, when using a compound such as Deca (Nor-19) you need to consider more than just an AI, you should be using a PA.

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    Kruger, what do I mean by PA? And my diet wasn't super clean but I was eat pretty good, but I do have a weakness for teds.. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bman001 View Post
    Kruger, what do I mean by PA? And my diet wasn't super clean but I was eat pretty good, but I do have a weakness for teds.. Lol
    Therein lies your problem. You, as many have done in the past rely on the drugs to do the work, and leave the diet as a secondary concern.

    PA, Prolactin Antagonist. Read up on why you'd need this.

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    So i should add pramipexole to my cycle starting at .125 per day before bed right? How far into the cycle should I start taking it?

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    I've used deca since the 1980s with no issues it's wise to keep a DA on hand in case your e2 gets out of hand it's
    good insurance

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    Indeed, you may cut or bulk running same gear, diets is a crucial point.
    A friend of mine used decaver for cutting for a contest /show.

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    Oh boy I always keep some letro on hand, ain't no body got time for dat lol

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