Bloating on Cycle

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03-06-2016, 06:23 PM
SuperNova93

Bloating on Cycle

Alright, so Day 8 now on my first cycle.

500mg Test E weekly
500iu HCG weekly
0.5mg Arimidex EOD

I was taking 25mg daily of Dbol but with good advice, ceased at the end of day 6.

I'm getting pretty bloated and my nipples look different, they have gotten a bit bigger. They always seem to be hard too lol. I've gained roughly 8lbs since I started, guessing it's water weight. Could I need to increase my AI?? I figured 0.5 would've been lots at my bf(11%).

Any guesses on course of action fellas? Cheers mates!

I have been reading that even if your nipples are getting a tad puffy, as long as they're not itchy or painful, it's not gyno, and water retention has to do with diet and water consumption?

I presume it has to do with the carbs, so during a day, I eat 2 cups of oats, 2 bananas, 2.5 cups of rice, and some cashews for a total of 330 carbs.
Water consumption is roughly 4L.
03-06-2016, 06:45 PM
kallmenelly

It's definitely the dbol causing your nips and water weight your Test E has not even kicked in yet.
03-06-2016, 06:48 PM
SuperNova93

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Originally Posted by kallmenelly

It's definitely the dbol causing your nips and water weight your Test E has not even kicked in yet.

to counter that, should I increase the Dex?
03-06-2016, 07:08 PM
Bio-Active

What does your food Italy look like? .5 dex eod is a pretty good dose
03-06-2016, 07:11 PM
NACH3

Quote:

Originally Posted by kallmenelly

It's definitely the dbol causing your nips and water weight your Test E has not even kicked in yet.

not true! It's building up, yes, but he's got at least 250mgs(much more than we make lol) in his blood - so after his next pin he'll have 375mgs in his system(hence pinning e3.5d or e3d(he'd have more than what I said) due to the rotation...
03-06-2016, 07:13 PM
SuperNova93

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bio-Active

What does your food Italy look like? .5 dex eod is a pretty good dose

Protein @ 265g: consists of Protein powder, steak/chicken, fish, cottage cheese
Carbs @ 330g: consists of Oats, Rice, cashews, bananas
Fats @ 120g: from fish, cashews, peanut butter and some from my oats(flax mixture)

I have been eating the same thing everyday religiously.
03-06-2016, 07:14 PM
SuperNova93

Quote:

Originally Posted by NACH3

not true! It's building up, yes, but he's got at least 250mgs(much more than we make lol) in his blood - so after his next pin he'll have 375mgs in his system(hence pinning e3.5d or e3d(he'd have more than what I said) due to the rotation...

yes, this morning was my 3rd pin of 250mg Test E :)
03-06-2016, 07:20 PM
Bio-Active

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Originally Posted by SuperNova93

Protein @ 265g: consists of Protein powder, steak/chicken, fish, cottage cheese Carbs @ 330g: consists of Oats, Rice, cashews, bananas Fats @ 120g: from fish, cashews, peanut butter and some from my oats(flax mixture) I have been eating the same thing everyday religiously.

your Adex might be bunk. Have you cycled before?
03-06-2016, 07:20 PM
NACH3

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperNova93

Protein @ 265g: consists of Protein powder, steak/chicken, fish, cottage cheese
Carbs @ 330g: consists of Oats, Rice, cashews, bananas
Fats @ 120g: from fish, cashews, peanut butter and some from my oats(flax mixture)

I have been eating the same thing everyday religiously.

What's your weight and bf%? I'm seeing if your consuming enough P... And if you just aromatize more(or if your BF is having more of an effect...
03-06-2016, 07:23 PM
SuperNova93

Quote:

Originally Posted by NACH3

What's your weight and bf%? I'm seeing if your consuming enough P... And if you just aromatize more(or if your BF is having more of an effect...

I'm 5'9 175lbs(before cycle) 183lbs(currently) @ 11%bf
03-06-2016, 07:28 PM
NACH3

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Originally Posted by SuperNova93

I'm 5'9 175lbs(before cycle) 183lbs(currently) @ 11%bf

Yeah your dose is plenty - I think it may be bunk as well... This is why I was asking too... I saw Bio's statement and thought we were thinking along the same lines -- with ur stats i wouldn't think you'd need any more than .5eod - that's a good dose -

What's your libido like? Are you breaking out(or starting too moreso)? High BP? Holding water obviously - signs of high E2 - but d-Bol is damn hard to dial in - is this your first time(cycling)?
03-06-2016, 07:29 PM
SuperNova93

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bio-Active

your Adex might be bunk. Have you cycled before?

No this is my first cycle
03-06-2016, 07:32 PM
SuperNova93

My arimidex and Clomid look pretty identical, but the arimidex is from Teragon Labs and the Clomid is from Northern Pharmaceuticals. Could my dex possibly be clomid?
03-06-2016, 07:34 PM
SuperNova93

Quote:

Originally Posted by NACH3

Yeah your dose is plenty - I think it may be bunk as well... This is why I was asking too... I saw Bio's statement and thought we were thinking along the same lines -- with ur stats i wouldn't think you'd need any more than .5eod - that's a good dose -

What's your libido like? Are you breaking out(or starting too moreso)? High BP? Holding water obviously - signs of high E2 - but d-Bol is damn hard to dial in - is this your first time(cycling)?

Libido is the same as it used to be. Orgasms are actually better now though. No problem holding an erection. No break out at all. I don't think BP is high, but I'm going to check that tomorrow. First time cycling yes.
03-06-2016, 07:35 PM
NACH3

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Originally Posted by SuperNova93

No this is my first cycle

I'd drop that d-Bol man! It's a hard drug to dial in w/an AI let alone on a first cycle.. Just my .02

I'm thinking your dex is bunk... I'd try and get some more dex ASAP and compare plus pull your BW mid cycle or if you can now then after your new dex(would be ideal)
03-06-2016, 07:47 PM
SuperNova93

Quote:

Originally Posted by NACH3

I'd drop that d-Bol man! It's a hard drug to dial in w/an AI let alone on a first cycle.. Just my .02

I'm thinking your dex is bunk... I'd try and get some more dex ASAP and compare plus pull your BW mid cycle or if you can now then after your new dex(would be ideal)

I stopped the dbol at the end of day 6 because a few vets told me it would be best :p
Would upping the dose of the dex I currently have be worth a shot?? and how long would it take for me to notice if it was working?
If I used Nolvadex to take care of estrogen, what would the dosing look like?
03-06-2016, 07:59 PM
NACH3

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperNova93

I stopped the dbol at the end of day 6 because a few vets told me it would be best :p
Would upping the dose of the dex I currently have be worth a shot?? and how long would it take for me to notice if it was working?
If I used Nolvadex to take care of estrogen, what would the dosing look like?

Good listening ;)

Nolva is a SERM - it'll block the estrogen from getting to your nips(breast tissue) but not keeping estrogen from elevating

I wouldn't try upping this dex really - without BW you don't know what's going on... I'd try and source out some different adex ASAP - you'll know if it's working(it's very early on in your cycle) so estro probably isn't really high(yet) if bunk -

That's about all you can do(you could take a low dose of 10-20mgs of nolva IF you have gyno) I run it on cycle alongside my AI if I have a flare up... But if/once you know how your body reacts to dex you can keep it at bay w/an AI
03-06-2016, 08:05 PM
SuperNova93

2 Attachment(s)

Attachment 162239 Attachment 162240

this is what they look like right now. If this helps at all lol
03-06-2016, 08:06 PM
NACH3

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Originally Posted by SuperNova93

Attachment 162239 Attachment 162240

this is what they look like right now. If this helps at all lol

Feel if there's a pea size lump right behind the nipple(no mistaking it believe me)
03-06-2016, 08:07 PM
SuperNova93

Quote:

Originally Posted by NACH3

Feel if there's a pea size lump right behind the nipple(no mistaking it believe me)

There isn't. I check everyday lmao

There's no itching or pain at all. They aren't sensitive either. They just look different.
03-06-2016, 08:09 PM
NACH3

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Originally Posted by SuperNova93

There isn't. I check everyday lmao

Ok stop fiddling w/the nips now lol - not gyno.
03-06-2016, 08:13 PM
SuperNova93

Quote:

Originally Posted by NACH3

Ok stop fiddling w/the nips now lol - not gyno.

perfect lol. I guess I'll just move on to the wife's :p

So should I get blood work now AND mid cycle, or just wait till mid cycle?
03-06-2016, 08:58 PM
Alta

FWIW I use Teragon for almost all my gear including arimadex. Never had an issue with it.

My arimadex and clomid pills look nothing alike aside from colour.
03-06-2016, 09:05 PM
SuperNova93

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alta

FWIW I use Teragon for almost all my gear including arimadex. Never had an issue with it.

My arimadex and clomid pills look nothing alike aside from colour.

are your arimidex circular white pills, a tad chalky, with a score down the middle??
03-06-2016, 09:30 PM
Alta

Yup. Came in a little white bottle with a red label. Has a lot number and an expiry date on here too.
03-06-2016, 09:33 PM
SuperNova93

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Originally Posted by Alta

Yup. Came in a little white bottle with a red label. Has a lot number and an expiry date on here too.

okay good!
My Clomid looks exactly the same as the Dex then. The only difference is that the Clomid is from Northern Pharma.
03-07-2016, 01:55 AM
TheTaxMan

Is your arimidex pharma grade or is it a UGL?
03-07-2016, 06:03 AM
SuperNova93

I believe Teragon is a UGL. I'm fairly confident in their products though. They're based out of Russia and I hear anything coming out of Russia is good :p I have a few friends who use them and have never had any issues, and Alta has used them as well and has been fine. I could just be going crazy. lol
03-07-2016, 08:49 AM
TheTaxMan

It is advised to only use pharma grade arimidex.

Not saying what you have is fake, but just bare it in mind.
03-07-2016, 08:51 AM
kallmenelly

My adex is a green pill very chalky with a line. I wonder if it's real :/ lol
03-07-2016, 09:42 AM
SuperNova93

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheTaxMan

It is advised to only use pharma grade arimidex.

Not saying what you have is fake, but just bare it in mind.

I hear what you're saying. If mid cycle blood work is good, Next cycle I'll get some pharma grade sex for sure. If the wife lets me do another one lol :P
03-07-2016, 11:12 AM
NACH3

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Originally Posted by SuperNova93

I hear what you're saying. If mid cycle blood work is good, Next cycle I'll get some pharma grade sex for sure. If the wife lets me do another one lol :P

How's that pharma 'sex' treatin' you? Lol
03-07-2016, 11:24 AM
TheTaxMan

I wish my pharmacy did sex, they call it a brothel over here :lol:
03-07-2016, 11:26 AM
Mr.BB

Pharma sex doesnt sound very dirty :(
03-07-2016, 11:30 AM
TheTaxMan

Just picture sexy nurses with huge titties BB :D
03-07-2016, 12:02 PM
NACH3

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Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Pharma sex doesnt sound very dirty :(

I was hoping it's better than UGL :lol:
03-08-2016, 11:00 AM
SuperNova93

Quote:

Originally Posted by NACH3

How's that pharma 'sex' treatin' you? Lol

Damn, I meant Dex!! lol! :(
03-08-2016, 12:44 PM
bsh

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Originally Posted by SuperNova93

Damn, I meant Dex!! lol! :(

haha..
03-10-2016, 08:14 AM
SuperNova93

Alright, so High E2 is definitely not the issue, the dex is working lol. I think I may be heading to Low E2 though. My head feels a little hazy. Kind of like the feeling of being on T3's. And a headache has started at the back of my head and is just consistent. Left shoulder cracked/popped for the first time ever this morning. Weight has gone down by 3lbs in the last 2 days from loss of water. Do you guys think its high E2?? if so, should I skip a Dex dose and then lower it by 50%?

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