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03-30-2016, 10:16 AM #1New Member
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My first cycle ever - Sustanon - comprehensive cycle info - need your advice
Hi guys,
I have put together a comprehensive plan for my first cycle (for research purposes only, of course).
I am 33 year old male, 5' 7 1/2", about 170 pretty lean and muscular (except this damn belly, haha). I've been working out for many years and have gotten very serious about it the last 3-4 years, I eat healthy unprocessed foods. I work out 5-6 times a week. I know what I'm doing in the gym, but nobody's perfect and love learning more.
I've gained about 30 lbs in the past 3 years - lost a lot of fat and really toned up, which I'm very proud of. I do feel that i've plateaued these past 1.5 years.
My proposed cycle is below. A few notes:
- Ostarine is included because i've been taking that already and am finishing up the supply I have. But I could take it or leave it, my muscles do seem more dense and hard, but haven't seen a ton of results other than that (not that I'm complaining about hard muscles).
- I plan on doing hcg and arimidex on-cycle.
- I front-loaded the sust the first week - I don't know if this was a good choice but it's already done.
- During PCT Clomid is 4 wks, 40/20/20/20 ED (for some reason the table is a little messed up)
You can find the plan in a google doc here.
So the total duration is 17 weeks.
Please provide any and all feedback. Thank you!Last edited by MusclePupInTraining; 03-30-2016 at 10:20 AM.
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03-30-2016, 10:25 AM #2New Member
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SUPPLEMENT SCHEDULE Date Sustanon Ostarine HCG Arimidex Nolvadex Clomid Week 1 Monday, March 28, 2016 500mg 50mg Tuesday, March 29, 2016 50mg Wednesday, March 30, 2016 250 mg 50mg Thursday, March 31, 2016 50mg Friday, April 01, 2016 125mg 50mg Saturday, April 02, 2016 50mg Sunday, April 03, 2016 125mg 50mg WEEK 2 Monday, April 04, 2016 50mg 250 ius Tuesday, April 05, 2016 125mg 50mg .25 mg Wednesday, April 06, 2016 50mg Thursday, April 07, 2016 125mg 50mg 250 ius .25 mg Friday, April 08, 2016 50mg Saturday, April 09, 2016 125mg 50mg .25 mg Sunday, April 10, 2016 50mg WEEK 3 Monday, April 11, 2016 125mg 50mg 250 ius .25 mg Tuesday, April 12, 2016 50mg Wednesday, April 13, 2016 125mg 50mg .25 mg Thursday, April 14, 2016 50mg 250 ius Friday, April 15, 2016 125mg 50mg .25 mg Saturday, April 16, 2016 50mg Sunday, April 17, 2016 125mg 50mg .25 mg WEEK 4 Monday, April 18, 2016 250 ius Tuesday, April 19, 2016 125mg .25 mg Wednesday, April 20, 2016 Thursday, April 21, 2016 125mg 250 ius .25 mg Friday, April 22, 2016 Saturday, April 23, 2016 125mg .25 mg Sunday, April 24, 2016 WEEK 5 Monday, April 25, 2016 125mg 250 ius .25 mg Tuesday, April 26, 2016 Wednesday, April 27, 2016 125mg .25 mg Thursday, April 28, 2016 250 ius Friday, April 29, 2016 125mg .25 mg Saturday, April 30, 2016 Sunday, May 01, 2016 125mg .25 mg WEEK 6 Monday, May 02, 2016 250 ius Tuesday, May 03, 2016 125mg .25 mg Wednesday, May 04, 2016 Thursday, May 05, 2016 125mg 250 ius .25 mg Friday, May 06, 2016 Saturday, May 07, 2016 125mg .25 mg Sunday, May 08, 2016 WEEK 7 Monday, May 09, 2016 125mg 250 ius .25 mg Tuesday, May 10, 2016 Wednesday, May 11, 2016 125mg .25 mg Thursday, May 12, 2016 250 ius Friday, May 13, 2016 125mg .25 mg Saturday, May 14, 2016 Sunday, May 15, 2016 125mg .25 mg WEEK 8 Monday, May 16, 2016 250 ius Tuesday, May 17, 2016 125mg .25 mg Wednesday, May 18, 2016 Thursday, May 19, 2016 125mg 250 ius .25 mg Friday, May 20, 2016 Saturday, May 21, 2016 125mg .25 mg Sunday, May 22, 2016 WEEK 9 Monday, May 23, 2016 125mg 250 ius .25 mg Tuesday, May 24, 2016 Wednesday, May 25, 2016 125mg .25 mg Thursday, May 26, 2016 250 ius Friday, May 27, 2016 125mg .25 mg Saturday, May 28, 2016 Sunday, May 29, 2016 125mg .25 mg WEEK 10 Monday, May 30, 2016 250 ius Tuesday, May 31, 2016 125mg .25 mg Wednesday, June 01, 2016 Thursday, June 02, 2016 125mg 250 ius .25 mg Friday, June 03, 2016 Saturday, June 04, 2016 125mg .25 mg Sunday, June 05, 2016 WEEK 11 Monday, June 06, 2016 250 ius Tuesday, June 07, 2016 .25 mg Wednesday, June 08, 2016 Thursday, June 09, 2016 250 ius .25 mg Friday, June 10, 2016 Saturday, June 11, 2016 .25 mg Sunday, June 12, 2016 WEEK 12 Monday, June 13, 2016 250 ius Tuesday, June 14, 2016 .25 mg Wednesday, June 15, 2016 Thursday, June 16, 2016 250 ius .25 mg Friday, June 17, 2016 Saturday, June 18, 2016 .25 mg Sunday, June 19, 2016 WEEK 13 Monday, June 20, 2016 250 ius Tuesday, June 21, 2016 .25 mg Wednesday, June 22, 2016 Thursday, June 23, 2016 250 ius .25 mg Friday, June 24, 2016 Saturday, June 25, 2016 .25 mg Sunday, June 26, 2016 WEEK 14 Monday, June 27, 2016 75 mg 40 mg Tuesday, June 28, 2016 75 mg 40 mg Wednesday, June 29, 2016 75 mg 40 mg Thursday, June 30, 2016 75 mg 40 mg Friday, July 01, 2016 75 mg 40 mg Saturday, July 02, 2016 75 mg 40 mg Sunday, July 03, 2016 75 mg 40 mg WEEK 15 Monday, July 04, 2016 50 mg 20 mg Tuesday, July 05, 2016 50 mg 20 mg Wednesday, July 06, 2016 50 mg 20 mg Thursday, July 07, 2016 50 mg 20 mg Friday, July 08, 2016 50 mg 20 mg Saturday, July 09, 2016 50 mg 20 mg Sunday, July 10, 2016 50 mg 20 mg WEEK 16 Monday, July 11, 2016 50 mg 20 mg Tuesday, July 12, 2016 50 mg 20 mg Wednesday, July 13, 2016 50 mg 20 mg Thursday, July 14, 2016 50 mg 20 mg Friday, July 15, 2016 50 mg 20 mg Saturday, July 16, 2016 50 mg 20 mg Sunday, July 17, 2016 50 mg 20 mg WEEK 17 Monday, July 18, 2016 50 mg 20 mg Tuesday, July 19, 2016 50 mg 20 mg Wednesday, July 20, 2016 50 mg 20 mg Thursday, July 21, 2016 50 mg 20 mg Friday, July 22, 2016 50 mg 20 mg Saturday, July 23, 2016 50 mg 20 mg Sunday, July 24, 2016 50 mg 20 mg
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03-30-2016, 10:36 AM #3
Start the HCG the third day of the first week and the dex the second day of the first week. Why are you pinning the sust every two days? With sust you can pin twice a week and have about the same result.
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03-30-2016, 11:33 AM #4RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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Start your dex and hcg on day one. Run the hcg up to 3 days before pct and the dex when PCT begins.
17 weeks is way too long. You should stop at 12 weeks.
EOD or every three days is fine with sust but you should up the dosage to 500 mg/week.
BW pre, mid and post are important, especially for your first cycle.
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03-30-2016, 11:39 AM #5New Member
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Thanks for the info -- btw 17 weeks includes the waiting period AND post cycle therapy . So the entire thing is 17 weeks.
I will start dex and hcg asap. Thank you!
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03-30-2016, 11:40 AM #6New Member
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I don't mind pinning more often, if there's a possibility it's going to take advantage of the short esters more often.
Thank you for the tips!
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03-30-2016, 11:58 AM #7RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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03-30-2016, 02:00 PM #8
your clomid and Nolva doses are the wrong way around
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 75/50/50/50NO SOURCES GIVEN
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03-30-2016, 02:07 PM #9Banned
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How long have you been taking ostarine?
It is suppresive and you might have already been on too long.
You might need to finish the SARM and then PCT and then wait months and start your cycle.
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03-30-2016, 02:23 PM #10
^^^ This. You need to PCT and do bloodwork 6-8 weeks after.
Also blends like sustanon are not the best for 1st cycle, your virgin muscles will complain...
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