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    sgt major pain is offline New Member
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    What testosterone to use...?

    Been using test Testosterone Enanthate 300.
    not sure how the others (Cypionate , Propionate , Suspension or blend) will work or even what the difference is other than fast and slow release. No trouble taking Enanthate at 500mg weekly, also at the end of my 2nd cycle.
    Any info for distinguishing the difference in benefits or functionality would be great.

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    There are/is no differences. Test is test

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    The longer ester the less test you get

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    Oh god ^^^^^^^^

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    Milligrams of active hormone per 100mg of hormone and ester:

    Testosterone Base: 100mg
    Testosterone Acetate: 83mg
    Testosterone Propionate : 80mg
    Testosterone Isocaproate: 72mg
    Testosterone Enanthate : 70mg
    Testosterone Cypionate : 69mg
    Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 66mg
    Testosterone Decanoate: 62mg
    Testosterone Undecanoate: 61mg

    The pinning frequency and active life of each varies quite significantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesThe4th View Post
    Oh god ^^^^^^^^
    Look at rig pigs info. Its true. 100mg of test e has less test than 100mg of prop. It is negligible, but it does make a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RigPig View Post
    Milligrams of active hormone per 100mg of hormone and ester:

    Testosterone Base: 100mg
    Testosterone Acetate: 83mg
    Testosterone Propionate : 80mg
    Testosterone Isocaproate: 72mg
    Testosterone Enanthate : 70mg
    Testosterone Cypionate : 69mg
    Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 66mg
    Testosterone Decanoate: 62mg
    Testosterone Undecanoate: 61mg

    The pinning frequency and active life of each varies quite significantly.
    Do you know why phenyl prop has less active hormone than cyp, or enth? It seems kind of backwards to me. Is there something with the pheyl prop ester that causes this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstone View Post
    Do you know why phenyl prop has less active hormone than cyp, or enth? It seems kind of backwards to me. Is there something with the pheyl prop ester that causes this?
    Phenylpropanoic acid has a larger mass than enanthic acid.

    Generally speaking, the larger the mass the larger area of volume occupied.

    This results in there being less room for other molecules.

    phenylpropanoic acid 150 g/mol

    enanthic acid 130 g/mol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstone View Post

    Look at rig pigs info. Its true. 100mg of test e has less test than 100mg of prop. It is negligible, but it does make a difference.
    I wasn't doubting rig pig at all. I was talking about the first few posts of this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesThe4th View Post
    I wasn't doubting rig pig at all. I was talking about the first few posts of this thread.
    I didn't think you were doubting rigpig, he posted after you. A lot of people dont know about the active homrone per 100mg. So it was me just misunderstanding what you posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    Phenylpropanoic acid has a larger mass than enanthic acid.

    Generally speaking, the larger the mass the larger area of volume occupied.

    This results in there being less room for other molecules.

    phenylpropanoic acid 150 g/mol

    enanthic acid 130 g/mol
    I thought the longer the ester the more space it took up. So I figured phenyl prop would have more active hormone.

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    Test is test, just the release time that changes

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstone View Post
    I thought the longer the ester the more space it took up. So I figured phenyl prop would have more active hormone.
    Yes, phenyl is longer than eth, this means you can fit less in same amount of volume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    Yes, phenyl is longer than eth, this means you can fit less in same amount of volume.
    I worded that bad. I thought that the esters with the slower release were larger than the esters with a faster release. So I figured that phenyl prop with a 3-4 day half life would take up less space than the enth or cyp ester.

    it makes phenyl prop even less desirable for me to try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgt major pain View Post
    Been using test Testosterone Enanthate 300.
    not sure how the others (Cypionate , Propionate , Suspension or blend) will work or even what the difference is other than fast and slow release. No trouble taking Enanthate at 500mg weekly, also at the end of my 2nd cycle.
    Any info for distinguishing the difference in benefits or functionality would be great.

    Most people do better in the beginning with longer acting compounds due to less injections.
    With TEST CYP or ENAN you can go every 5-7 days,,,with TEST PROP you will need to inject
    Every other day.

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