Tamoxifen & Chest Fat

[Proximal]

I'm 57; 3 years ago I was @ 30% BF, got my prolactin under control, dropped to 20%, Paleo diet down to 16%, TRT for 7 months down to 13%. However my chest fat,though improved, is reducing far more slowly than everywhere else.

I've seen pictures of gyno, doesn't really look like that, although one nipple area is definitely fatter & droops more than the other. When I bend forward, they both sag a bit - f'n hate it.

Talked with my TRT doc today who strongly felt that about 2-3 months of tamoxifen will definitely tighten up my chest, so I bought a couple of months worth & will try 20mg. per day.

Appreciate your guys input, thanks!

[batoutofhell]

haven't tried it yet, but from what I've read. Raloxifine seem like it would be a better choice.

[Iceberg]

I'm far from a pro. But I do read a lot. From what I have read trt raises red blood cell count. Raloxifene may increase the risk of serious blood clots. Do not take raloxifene if you have a history of serious blood clots. So I would suggest looking into raloxiene for that issue it may do more harm than good. Just my opinion I could be dead wrong.

[Proximal]

Thanks to both for responding, greatly appreciated. I am confused regarding the Raloxifine vs. Tamoxifin choice, pretty sure I've seen both suggested on this forum, but this is brand new territory for me. So I ran it by my TRT doc and he did recommend the Tamoxifen and said it did work for other clients.

Iceberg, thanks for the input, definitely aware of the RBC risks, do BW regularly and give blood as needed regarding that. I don't have a history of blood clots however.

Still considering the decision. I have started sermorelin this week and will continue for 3-6 months and see how effective this at decreasing the body fat even more and if it has more of an impact on my chest area. Again thanks to you guys and thanks to anyone that gives an input. BTW, I thought I posted this on the wrong section, then put this on the SARMS section in case.

[Mr.BB]

Personnally prefer raloxifen as tamox lowers IGF1 by about 25%.

[kelkel]

The effectiveness between the two serms is pretty much insignificant, from everything I've read. Couple points here or there. That's a whopper of a drop BB. I wonder if anything else played into it? Here's a good article on Nolva and IGF1, just disregard the breast cancer attribute. Be sure to open the chart relating to IGF-1.

Prox I hope this helps:

IGF status is altered by tamoxifen in patients with breast cancer


ps: I run nolva at 10 mgs on most any cycle I run anymore. No issues.

[Mr.BB]

The effectiveness between the two serms is pretty much insignificant, from everything I've read. Couple points here or there. That's a whopper of a drop BB. I wonder if anything else played into it? Here's a good article on Nolva and IGF1, just disregard the breast cancer attribute. Be sure to open the chart relating to IGF-1.

Prox I hope this helps:

IGF status is altered by tamoxifen in patients with breast cancer


ps: I run nolva at 10 mgs on most any cycle I run anymore. No issues.

Data comes from here: Eur J Endocrinol | Mobile

Interesting different gender results.

[kelkel]

Great one BB! Newer too. I liked this line:

Higher testosterone levels may mitigate the suppression of GH secretion

[Proximal]

The effectiveness between the two serms is pretty much insignificant, from everything I've read. Couple points here or there. That's a whopper of a drop BB. I wonder if anything else played into it? Here's a good article on Nolva and IGF1, just disregard the breast cancer attribute. Be sure to open the chart relating to IGF-1.


Prox I hope this helps:

IGF status is altered by tamoxifen in patients with breast cancer


ps: I run nolva at 10 mgs on most any cycle I run anymore. No issues.

Thanks Kel, so it doesn't seem the drop is too bad,at least that is, if it did have the desired affect. Do you run it during cycles just as added precaution against gyno? Please forgive the rookie question.

[Proximal]

Data comes from here: Eur J Endocrinol | Mobile

Interesting different gender results.

Thanks Mr. BB. Please help me if I interpreted this correctly - so for males it is ineffective at fat oxidation, so per this study, a poor choice for my needs?

[kelkel]

Thanks Kel, so it doesn't seem the drop is too bad,at least that is, if it did have the desired affect. Do you run it during cycles just as added precaution against gyno? Please forgive the rookie question.

Yes, I've been prone. Personally I've never seen a significant difference in my levels to raise any questions and I do check it every six months. And I'd panic if I dropped like BB did.