Help 4weeks in

**lightitup** · 04-24-2016, 04:25 AM

Hi Guys,

I started my cycle of dbol 30mg a week for 5weeks plus sustanon 500mg a week and eq 600 a week, my question is so far I have only gained like 9lbs which when I checked this morning was all gone thru out the day I eat a lot,

5eggs protein shake oatmeal and PB sandwich for breakfast

Chicken breast cup of rice for lunch

Post work out shake

Chicken or Steak with cup of rice after workout

Fish or turkey cup of rice for next meal

Before bed shake with milk cottage cheese

This is my diet so far no sugars gallon of water a day, dbol has given me good strength slowed me down in boxing and the sustanon has given me a rash on my thigh..... All in all not really enjoying my cycle haven't felt amazing like everyone states, my weight gains just die off and are not holding.... And spent all this money on eating, what do you think I am doing wrong or what should I tweak??? Thanks

**AR's King Silabolin** · 04-24-2016, 05:32 AM

Are you using an AI. Thats important when using sustanon and dbol . If not i would def feel like shit.

**DGenRit** · 04-24-2016, 06:56 AM

You state that you gained 9 pounds and then you state you have no gains. Which is it? You should weigh yourself at the same time everyday under the same conditions (after your morning dump).

9 pounds is solid - you should be pleased

Also - you talk about your diet but how about your training? How often? How intense? Cardio?

**Back In Black** · 04-24-2016, 07:25 AM

You talk like this is your first cycle, is it?

**lightitup** · 04-24-2016, 07:37 AM

Well what I mean is during the day I put on about 9pounds of which after morning dump goes to about 3.5 - 4 with no water retention.... Gym days are intense cardio is limited I just do boxing once twice a week but I try to make up those calories with extra meal..... Maybe I may need to add more carbs or introduce some snacks to my body pick up some calories???

**lightitup** · 04-24-2016, 07:38 AM

Yes bro first cycle...

**lightitup** · 04-24-2016, 07:41 AM

When I weigh my self in the morning after a dump Im left with 3.5-4 pounds weight during the day I can add up to 9-10 pounds mostly water I think..... But no water retention noticed.... Maybe I should add some more calories, I do train boxing and mma but I have pushed this back due to pumps..... And I try to make up the calories for those days....maybe introduce some snacks and additional meal??

**Back In Black** · 04-24-2016, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by lightitup

Yes bro first cycle...

Wow. How do you know it's the sust causing the rash?

I'm not surprised you don't feel amazing. 3 compounds as a first cycle is overkill man. You should drop the dbol and eq.

If you aren't gaining enough then you aren't eating enough. EVERYBODY weighs less when they wake up than when they went to sleep. Picke one time of day to get weighed not several.

**lightitup** · 04-24-2016, 08:37 AM

Yeh I think it is the sust plus it was virgin muscle hurt like shit left quad.... But my right is fine and glutes are fine to.... Rash seems to be going away... Next cycle I would probably keep it simple

**Back In Black** · 04-24-2016, 09:09 AM

Ok, well, good luck then......

**numbere** · 04-24-2016, 09:24 AM

OP when you started this cycle you were 5'7" 145lb.

When I did my first cycle I was 5'7" 165lb and put on over 20lb in 12 weeks using only test.

You need to eat more and should drop everything besides the sust.

Are you using an AI?

**lightitup** · 04-24-2016, 10:23 AM

Yeh I use aromasin 12.5mg EOD..... I got EQ to eat more but lately get full quick.... I will change it up someone else told me today to kick up the sus to 750mg

**numbere** · 04-24-2016, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by lightitup

Yeh I use aromasin 12.5mg EOD..... I got EQ to eat more but lately get full quick.... I will change it up someone else told me today to kick up the sus to 750mg

Keep the sust to 500mg drop the eq and dbol .

Stane needs to be taken ED, I bet your e2 is high.

I don't mean to be a dick but all this is repeated religiously in this forum.

You must have come across it numerous times in preparation for this cycle.

**Dj Screw** · 04-24-2016, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by lightitup

Yeh I use aromasin 12.5mg EOD..... I got EQ to eat more but lately get full quick.... I will change it up someone else told me today to kick up the sus to 750mg

you deff dont need to up the test, you just need to eat if you want to gain weight. simple.

drop the eq and dbol as well for your first cycle