One (first) cycle and DONE

[newbie2688]

Former college athlete and currently an actor/model. about 6'6 265. american.

New to this scene, never tried any gear but taken damn near every GNC supplement.


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Researched a little about steroids but dont know much.

my big question is Can I take one cycle and expect to keep at least 50% of appearance in mass gains. (assume it as one cycle and dont use them again) Strength isnt important to me. I am in my mid 20's and after my collegiate experience and continued training I feel as though I am reaching my genetic potential. An additional 10-20lbs of mass would open so many doors for me.

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Current focus is on myofibrillar compound lifting with an emphasis on progressive overload. My WILKS score is 370.

I think i am ready but am seeking advice for a one time cycle for good gains that can last for several years

[InternalFire]

I will let this answer to the pros, but you be doing more wrong then good to yourself if you just do it out of curiosity. If it earns you a lifetime contract you need to read alot more than just a contract, but also what will happen to you as a result in taking AAS. doesnt matter how many of what kind of supps have you taken, nothing compares to AAS, its a different realm.

read this to save yourself alot of time and for the sake of great deal of knowledge, its not much its just very well put together in a possibly shortest way possible:

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

PS: No such thing as ONE CYCLE EXISTS. I havent even ran one I understand why. Its more of a psychological thing than physiological, like why would one go feeling OLD-NORMAL when one could feel NEW-GOD-LIKE? Mind is something that will determine if you will run another cycle after, and its a hard call untill one tries hard to tell what happens

[73rr]

You won't just take one cycle. This is a life time design.

In my apinion and like insanemuscle said the vets will say more, but one cycle won't stay. Your genetic limit is what u will stay at. Aas will further that. But if u stop aas forever then u will just go back to your limit or less!

If it was that easy EVERYONE would do it

[newbie2688]

You won't just take one cycle. This is a life time design.

In my apinion and like insanemuscle said the vets will say more, but one cycle won't stay. Your genetic limit is what u will stay at. Aas will further that. But if u stop aas forever then u will just go back to your limit or less!

If it was that easy EVERYONE would do it

Its funny you say EVERYONE because it seems like EVERYONE in my industry is on gear and EVERYONE at my gym is too. I am very well versed with the genetic potential of a human being without gear. Its easy for me to look at someone and determine whats their maximum genetic potential based upon their body type. Most people I see are beyond what is considered natural with their FFMI. Its easy to point out guys who are taking gear because certain body parts are dramatically disproportionate to the rest of their body. I see it everywhere.

My thinking behind this was sparked because I know many guys who have stopped using Aas and are open about their prior use. BY NO MEANS do these guys look "good." They do appear to have retained a good amount muscle and size even after being done with them for several years. I am convinced their efforts to train hard and diet well they maintained some of their gains.

[NACH3]

Its funny you say EVERYONE because it seems like EVERYONE in my industry is on gear and EVERYONE at my gym is too. I am very well versed with the genetic potential of a human being without gear. Its easy for me to look at someone and determine whats their maximum genetic potential based upon their body type. Most people I see are beyond what is considered natural with their FFMI. Its easy to point out guys who are taking gear because certain body parts are dramatically disproportionate to the rest of their body. I see it everywhere.

My thinking behind this was sparked because I know many guys who have stopped using Aas and are open about their prior use. BY NO MEANS do these guys look "good." They do appear to have retained a good amount muscle and size even after being done with them for several years. I am convinced their efforts to train hard and diet well they maintained some of their gains.

Trust me once you get a taste you won't want it any other way.... Many more rewards but also risks when cycling period! Is it worth it to shut down your endocrine system for one cycle when shit could hit the fan and you still mess up your body regardless of taking all the precautions?? It's different for everyone - but one thing is for sure... After each or any cycle your T levels will drop - how much? It's an impossible question to answer!

[newbie2688]

Trust me once you get a taste you won't want it any other way.... Many more rewards but also risks when cycling period! Is it worth it to shut down your endocrine system for one cycle when shit could hit the fan and you still mess up your body regardless of taking all the precautions?? It's different for everyone - but one thing is for sure... After each or any cycle your T levels will drop - how much? It's an impossible question to answer!

What if I was on TRT post cycle and for the rest of my life? It seems like a soft landing to rely on if my cycle and PCT went well


( If I cut my fat intake down for a few weeks my test levels plummit, I have tested as low as 110 ng/dl with that method ). I have no problem getting on TRT

Thus my gameplan as of now is to get on a solid cycle with additonals to fight the sides, close it out with a good PCT, then get on TRT and continue my heavy lifting training as I have been for years. Do you guys think that will work?
--if so, what cycle would you recommend?

[InternalFire]

I bail this thread, Im sorry, lots things you said dont add up here, you need to be more open with all of us with your previous use of AAS, with your current exact fasted weight and exact BF% and your ACTUAL Test levels. Good luck, Im out

[newbie2688]

I bail this thread, Im sorry, lots things you said dont add up here, you need to be more open with all of us with your previous use of AAS, with your current exact fasted weight and exact BF% and your ACTUAL Test levels. Good luck, Im out

Wasnt doesnt add up?

Please explain so understand posting in future forums. I dont wanna make the same mistake

[InternalFire]

study this: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

A great great start

[newbie2688]

I am curious still what doesnt add up, because I have been terrified of needle my entire life. I was then kid that required 3 nurses to hold me down just for a flu shot. And then as I carried in my athletics pursuing a college and then professional career I was beaten in the head that steroids will ruin your life.

So to help add up things a little better, I have never used or touched an AAS, but I have been surrounded by it. I wasnt an idiot either by simply ignoring it, I asked the right questions and researched what I could about AAS. I have now reached a point in my career where I need them to break the barriers. The term fasted weight is not one Im familar with but FFMI is 26.1. I could take a guess those and assume my fasted weight is probably more around 255lbs . My exact BF% ? You have access you a DEXA? hook me up brother let me know where. During athletic endeavors, I had access to a DEXA scan I tested out at 22% BF. Based upon those test results compared with my current my body and some math, I came up with 12% which is a fairly accurate number. DEXA is the most accurate way to receive a BF percentage. Bod pods still have a plus/minus of 1-2%. I sure as hell hope your not getting your readings from calipers. A week before my DEXA scan the calipers (measured by an AT) came out at 16% , thats a little off haha.

Lastly, my test levels, well friend if you shocked to find out I tested with 110ng/dl (equivalent of an 85yr old man ) both me and my doctor were too. That was just a fun little story to explain I had access to TRT. But considering my fear of needles and the lack of research to prove Androgel is an effective solution. I asked my endo what else I could do. He recommended I bump up my (healthy) fat intake which in fact brought me up to about 450ng/dl....which is decent enough for me. Considering I havent really changed my diet since, I would have to guess my current test levels are around that.

I am no longer afraid of needles and ready for something new...

[Dj Screw]

What if I was on TRT post cycle and for the rest of my life? It seems like a soft landing to rely on if my cycle and PCT went well


( If I cut my fat intake down for a few weeks my test levels plummit, I have tested as low as 110 ng/dl with that method ). I have no problem getting on TRT

Thus my gameplan as of now is to get on a solid cycle with additonals to fight the sides, close it out with a good PCT, then get on TRT and continue my heavy lifting training as I have been for years. Do you guys think that will work?
--if so, what cycle would you recommend?

Sorry but this has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read. The whole point of someone doing "Just 1 cycle" and a PCT is to AVOID TRT lol. You only want to risk doing 1 cycle but yet you are willing to go on TRT for a lifetime afterwards? That doesn't make sense to me, you are all over the place. I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about or doing and you are about to make a big mistake. I have only read this one thread about you but I can already tell you are just one of those people who cannot be helped.

Good luck

[Proximal]

What if I was on TRT post cycle and for the rest of my life? It seems like a soft landing to rely on if my cycle and PCT went well


( If I cut my fat intake down for a few weeks my test levels plummit, I have tested as low as 110 ng/dl with that method ). I have no problem getting on TRT

Thus my gameplan as of now is to get on a solid cycle with additonals to fight the sides, close it out with a good PCT, then get on TRT and continue my heavy lifting training as I have been for years. Do you guys think that will work?
--if so, what cycle would you recommend?

I get what needs to / has to be done, which is not ethical (debatable) nor healthy, necessary to succeed. I live in L.A. am surrounded by beauty, some natural, a lot of it not so. Just walking around the farmers market this morning made my jaw drop several times lol. So if you are making a career / life decision, please do more research about the risks at your age.

There is a contradiction though between a one and done cycle, which if you read Austnites first cycle thread can possibly net you about 5 solid pounds - and TRT, which is for the rest of your life.

[BG]

I said one and done........11 years ago

[The Deadlifting Dog]

I said one and done........11 years ago

Shit one and done...
Truth be told, I wish I never went on.
You can't go back.

[DGenRit]

Shit one and done...
Truth be told, I wish I never went on.
You can't go back.

Damn DDog - that's a downer. Why do you wish that? Have you had health issues?

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Damn DDog - that's a downer. Why do you wish that? Have you had health issues?

I first went on TRT.
I was 40yrs old and it was a life changer.
Things were so much better.

However, now that I have crossed to the dark side I see it for what it is.
We put our health at risk for vanity.
In my case, it is powerlifting.
Sure, I am one of the strongest guys in the gym.
However, for six months a year I am a raving sex addict with high blood pressure and bad cholesterol.

Let's not kid ourselves, this shit is not healthy.
Having good lipids for six months a year is not the same as having good lipids all year long.
Damage gets done.

That being said, I think I am only doing test cycles for now on.
Tren is a life changing beast.

[Mr.BB]

Former college athlete and currently an actor/model. about 6'6 265. american.

New to this scene, never tried any gear but taken damn near every GNC supplement.


_____________

Researched a little about steroids but dont know much.

my big question is Can I take one cycle and expect to keep at least 50% of appearance in mass gains. (assume it as one cycle and dont use them again) Strength isnt important to me. I am in my mid 20's and after my collegiate experience and continued training I feel as though I am reaching my genetic potential. An additional 10-20lbs of mass would open so many doors for me.

______

Current focus is on myofibrillar compound lifting with an emphasis on progressive overload. My WILKS score is 370.

I think i am ready but am seeking advice for a one time cycle for good gains that can last for several years

You might be able to get 10lbs of lean mass from first cycle, the problem is 10lbs will be completely invisible to anyone, specially in your frame.

Dont understand why ppl think they will become beasts after 1 cycle. It takes multiple cycles and time for the average person grow visible muscles, unless of course you are a genetic freak.

[BG]

I first went on TRT.
I was 40yrs old and it was a life changer.
Things were so much better.

However, now that I have crossed to the dark side I see it for what it is.
We put our health at risk for vanity.
In my case, it is powerlifting.
Sure, I am one of the strongest guys in the gym.
However, for six months a year I am a raving sex addict with high blood pressure and bad cholesterol.

Let's not kid ourselves, this shit is not healthy.
Having good lipids for six months a year is not the same as having good lipids all year long.
Damage gets done.

That being said, I think I am only doing test cycles for now on.
Tren is a life changing beast.

many time I look back and wished I had never cycled. Hrt at 30 opened the door. I had to give up tren, now just double hrt, bit of decades and as much gh as I can rummage up.