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05-01-2016, 08:14 AM #1New Member
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Second Cycle Review
Hello Everyone, this is my second cycle and my previous one consisted of : Sustanon 250 / Tbol and proper PCT.
Current Cycle is going to be : TNT400(TrenE/TestE) +Tbol + Arimidex
Brand : New Port
For this second cycle i need some help and advice, reason being is that a year after my first cycle, i got gyno... related or not, that made me decide to add Arimidex to my cycle because taking TNT will literally be like feeding it with a silver spoon. I need advice on how to take such a cycle because its a big jump from my first one.
I weight 180lbs currently, and i understand how good this stuff works while on a diet plan, on my first cycle i weighted 198lbs, by the end of the cycle i dropped down to 165lbs shredded with veins more descriptive than google maps.
I was planning on taking this cycle like this :
TNT400 : 2x a week
Tbol: 8 weeks
Arimidex: The whole Cycle ?
Thank you !
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05-01-2016, 10:34 AM #2
I think for your second cycle since you are dealing with gyno already it would be better to run test only with an ai along side. Get that under control first before adding more compounds.
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05-02-2016, 07:12 AM #3New Member
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awhh that sucks, i still havent started my cycle but i already have everything i need i'm just waiting on peoples advice :P the test E and tren E are mixed together in a compound referred to as TNT, and i'm trying to avoid having to buy a different vile, wouldnt the fact that i'm adding arimidex to my cycle put gyno under control ?
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05-02-2016, 08:13 AM #4RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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Cycling now is would be steroid abuse .
You don't begin a cycle when you have a preexisting condition.
That's one of the unwritten rules about this game.
Get yourself some ralox for gyno treatment.
During your time off you should rethink your 2nd cycle because you have no business using tren .
Even if you were ready for tren long esters are not good for a first tren cycle.
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05-02-2016, 02:30 PM #5New Member
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05-02-2016, 03:29 PM #6RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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If your Canadian then you should definitely take advantage of your public health care.
Getting bw and being properly diagnosed by a Dr would be a good first step.
Both arimidex and aromasin are AIs.
AIs are used to control estrogen while on cycle, they will not reverse gyno.
In order to treat gyno you need to use SERM therapy or surgery.
Raloxifene or nolvadex are both SERMs and they are what you should be seeking.
The thread below goes over the dosages used when treating gyno with SERMs.
Stop Using Aromatase Inhibitors to Reverse gynecomastia! SERM's Only!
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05-03-2016, 09:05 AM #7New Member
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Awesome, so i actually do have a pack of nolvadex and i could get more if needed, money is not an issue its just the products that i can get that are.
i read through the article you provided, they do explain how to take Raloxifene, which i cant get, but they dont explain how to take nolvadex, they are a 25mg tablet each.
So now i guess i'm asking what the proper dosage to fix my gyno bullshit would be with nolvadex instead of raloxifene ?
And another question unrelated to this but for pure future knowledge, are you capable of taking nolvadex during your cycle ? or is it counter-productive ?
Thanks, you are helping me a lot keep sharing your knowledge !
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05-03-2016, 10:37 AM #8RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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Nolvadex is a brand name of tamoxifen .
The article I attached contains the dosage for tamoxifen.
Yes you can use nolva during cycle, but you shouldn't have to if you control your e2 with an AI and also have mid cycle blood work.
A vet here named kel uses 10mg of nolva on cycle, but he's also a bit of a baby.
I believe he uses nolva for it's lipid lowering effect rather than gyno prevention.
To paraphrase Michael Scalley, if you were defending a castle against siege would you rather block all the gates or immediately destroy 80% of the attacking army?
Nolva acts by attaching to receptor cites or blocking the gates.
Whereas AIs act by neutralizing or destroying the aromatase enzyme.
If you still don't understand the moral is you're better off learning how to control e2 with an AI and BW.
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