Low test tren ace cycle

**sdog1313** · 05-02-2016, 04:03 AM

current stats
6 foot 200lbs 14%bf

1-8 test prop 100mg a week
1-6 tren ace 525mg a week

Pct
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

My question is should I use a ai with such a low dose of test ? I have aromasin .

Also should I use caber at 0.25 e3d as I have read a lot of conflicting posts?

I will be cutting and would like to stay at 200lbs and get to below 10% in 8 weeks?

**Back In Black** · 05-02-2016, 05:44 AM

Have you used tren before?

**sdog1313** · 05-02-2016, 05:51 AM

Yes .

**NACH3** · 05-02-2016, 06:51 AM

525mgs/wk isn't a low dose... If it were me I'd up test prop to at least 200mgs/wk - do you find that running low test higher tren gives you what you want? Just asking..., I've always preferred my test higher than any other compound except maybe Primo lol

How many times have you ran tren?! And what's your cycle experience?

**sdog1313** · 05-02-2016, 07:00 AM

I wanted to do the test at 100mg a week as read a lot of posts saying that to let the tren do the work and just have the test to feel normal and minimal water retention .

This will be my second cycle .

My first cycle was
Test prop 1-16 100mg eod
Mast prop 8-16 125 eod
Anavar 8-16 100eod
Tren a 8- 14 100 ed
Aromasin 12.5 daily

**sdog1313** · 05-02-2016, 07:14 AM

Anavar was ed

**edmondle** · 05-02-2016, 07:27 AM

My friend love low does test with higher dose tren , he reckons that's test and tren will fight for the same receptors, as long as u control ur oestrogen and take ur caber results are good, BUT 100mg is way to low, I agree with NACH3 you should at least bump ur test to 200mg or even 300mg

**sdog1313** · 05-02-2016, 07:56 AM

So what do you think of 50mg prop eod with 12.5 aromasin ed? So would be 175 test and 525 tren

**numbere** · 05-02-2016, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by sdog1313

My first cycle was
Test prop 1-16 100mg eod
Mast prop 8-16 125 eod
Anavar 8-16 100eod
Tren a 8- 14 100 ed
Aromasin 12.5 daily

This is one hell of a first cycle.

I honestly don't know what to say...

**NACH3** · 05-02-2016, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by sdog1313

I wanted to do the test at 100mg a week as read a lot of posts saying that to let the tren do the work and just have the test to feel normal and minimal water retention .

This will be my second cycle .

My first cycle was
Test prop 1-16 100mg eod
Mast prop 8-16 125 eod
Anavar 8-16 100eod
Tren a 8- 14 100 ed
Aromasin 12.5 daily

You need a DA(Dopanine Aginist Prami or caber)/Hcg (250iu every 3 days)/and run your AI(with low test you may only Need it at 6.25mgs/day but be ready to use 12.5mgs/day you'll know with BW) also extend your nolva to 6wks keep clomid at 4wks... For a better chance of recovering

Many people run low dose test to tren for the sides(though tren doesn't aromatize) it binds to ER(estrogen receptor strongly) so your gonna need to pull labs(PRE/mid cycle BW/& post pct 6-8wks)...

**kelkel** · 05-02-2016, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by numbere

This is one hell of a first cycle.

I honestly don't know what to say...

Exactly what I was thinking. Op, what level of development do you have that makes you feel you require such a cycle?

**sdog1313** · 05-02-2016, 09:38 AM

I was suppose to do test only for my first cycle but got carried away. I've tried tren and can handle the sides up to 700mg week so was thinking of a 8 week 175 test 525 tren this time around .

**Mr.BB** · 05-02-2016, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by sdog1313

I was suppose to do test only for my first cycle but got carried away. I've tried tren and can handle the sides up to 700mg week so was thinking of a 8 week 175 test 525 tren this time around .

How was the bloodwork after your first cycle?

**sdog1313** · 05-02-2016, 10:05 AM

Pre cycle
test 9.5 total test
fsh 4.4
LH 3.3
Estrogen less than 50 e2

8 weeks after pct
Test 14.1 (10-35)
Fsh 2.5 (1.5 - 12.5)
LH 2.3 ( 1.7 - 8.6)
Estrogen 103 (99-192)
Prolactin 211 (86-324)

I am having be done this week also

**Mr.BB** · 05-02-2016, 10:17 AM

Your question about AI and prolactin control is hard to answer cause its very individual dependent and should be answered by bloodwork.
In my opinion, to use tren you should have a quite good grasp of e2 management, otherwise you should really do mid cycle bloodwork.

Personally never used such low test and tren, for 100mg test only I dont need AI, for 250mgs test plus tren I need 0,5 adex eod. Tren exacerbates aromatization IMO.

**sdog1313** · 05-02-2016, 10:59 AM

My last cycle I was doing 12.5 aromasin everyday and mid cycle values with in a good range .
Do you think I do the same again from the start for 175mgtest or 6.25? And then reevaluate after mid cycle bw

**Back In Black** · 05-02-2016, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by sdog1313

Pre cycle
test 9.5 total test
fsh 4.4
LH 3.3
Estrogen less than 50 e2

8 weeks after pct
Test 14.1 (10-35)
Fsh 2.5 (1.5 - 12.5)
LH 2.3 ( 1.7 - 8.6)
Estrogen 103 (99-192)
Prolactin 211 (86-324)

I am having be done this week also

You should, your FSH and LH are particularly low there.