I think I'm about to Cry!! Took my last shot yesterday. What I learned. For newbies

**BUYLONGTERM** · 07-01-2003, 10:52 AM

Well first cycle is completed...WOW, Its a sad day! It was definitely a HUGE learning experience. THANKS to all the bro's who took the time to answer my questions no matter how ridiculous they were!!!

For guys who are just starting out, here is a few things I learned along the way.

1. Without the help from everyone on this board, I couldn't of done it without you! (THIS BOARD ROCKS) and the bro's are incredible. They always are looking out for your best interest.

2. RESEARCH, RESEARCH, RESEARCH..Please, do research before you decide to put anything into your body. I started my cycle over 3 times because I was sooo wrong and thought I had the answers. USE THE SEARCH BUTTON. There are NO QUICK ANSWERS. (Have Patience)

3. If you think going in your only going to do 1 cycle, your WRONG!
(I am already planning my next, and I can't wait)

4. Steroids are not a miracle drug. If your diet, sleeping patterns, and training isn't perfected, your results will be minimal. Make sure to fine tune your diet before starting.

5. More isn't always better. Get to know your body.

6. NEEDLES DO NOT HURT. LET ME SAY IT AGAIN, NEEDLES DO NOT HURT.

7. Have all your gear on hand before you start your cycle, including POST Thearpy.

8. No cycle is complete without running TEST!!!
(GOD I WILL MISS THE TEST)

9. WATER, WATER, WATER!!! Drink plenty of water.

10. Do not take advise from one person!

11. Before you do anything, get your liver values checked, blood pressure checked, etc...Always monitor your body. Though I know my Dr. would freak, I still decided to be upfront with him and he actually thanked me for doing so.

The list can go on, but again, the MOST IMPORTANT THING I LEARNED WAS RESEARCH. GOD I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH.

I'm a member for life, thanks bro's!!!!!!!

BLT

**tdzzii72** · 07-01-2003, 10:59 AM

buylongterm,

How did your first cycle go? Do you have any before and after pics to post?

and sorry to here it was your last day. I still got 6 weeks left

**BUYLONGTERM** · 07-01-2003, 11:11 AM

Yeah, bro, I will post pics tonight. I have pictures on the "Members" pic section, but I was through six weeks and I actually went 16 weeks because most of my cycle was a real low dose. My bench however did shoot up 50 pounds!!!

My first cycle I would grade it probably a C+. I started off with a real low dose, so If I could of done it all over again, I would of done at least 400mg of TEST and 400mg of EQ. And I learned I should of been drinking a hell of a lot more water. Hell, while running the Winny, my joints and muscles dried up.I had to stop taking Winny 4 weeks in. I also learned I should of started taking glucosomine a lot ealier!!! Little things like that.

but, starting off with a low dose, I learned what my body could handle. I really had No sides!!!

**Farm boy** · 07-02-2003, 04:56 AM

sorry to hear it was your last shot.

**sin** · 07-02-2003, 07:13 AM

good post bro. i disagree with the needles dont hurt thing though. but, maybe it was because i was shooting every day. i know what you mean about just one cycle, ive already planned out my next 3.
-sin

**Beefbucket** · 07-02-2003, 07:21 AM

I am currently compiling everything before I start my first cycle. I was planning on this summer, but I dont think it was a wise decision, So I have decided to wait and have patience...I will take your advice to heart, cuz now any advice I can receive is advantageous....Congrats brother...

**hybrid** · 07-02-2003, 07:44 AM

I feel your pain. I only have a week of shots left. Not looking to forward to turning into a bitch on clomid. My wife better watch out. I've got years of PMS built up. An I'm with you. "Just one cycle" is a myth.

**ripped4fsu** · 07-02-2003, 07:46 AM

this board does rock... LOTS of good, smart bros here

**Slypknot** · 07-02-2003, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by sin

good post bro. i disagree with the needles dont hurt thing though. but, maybe it was because i was shooting every day. i know what you mean about just one cycle, ive already planned out my next 3.
-sin

Actually, I've found that needles don't really hurt (as long as you're not using 18's!)...it's the aftermath that hurts. I'm runnin a Prop/Fina cycle and lemme tell ya, regardless of what muscle I put the stuff in it takes 2 days and it is SORE as hell! I was hoping I'd get used to it but after 4 weeks it still hurts pretty much the same as day one.... but the gains are worth the pain in my opinion!

**BUYLONGTERM** · 07-02-2003, 08:57 AM

I posted my last pic in the "members Pic" forum. Yeah, I agree, I never ever had one problem or pain from the needles, and Yes, I at times shot every single day! I guess I might be lucky.

**Full Intensity** · 07-02-2003, 09:06 AM

Glad to here you a member for life!

most of us are. As for the last shot thing, don't worry you 4 life now, there will be many more shots to come

**BUYLONGTERM** · 07-02-2003, 09:08 AM

Yeah, I'm picking up my clomid today. I'm definitely not looking foward to it!!! My nuts never shrank up some I'm hoping I luck out and it won't be as bad as I've heard....HGH here I come!!!!!

**TheMudMan** · 07-02-2003, 10:30 AM

Nice posts...... I have a week and a half until I'm finished my cycle and it can't come soon enough! Tired of the shots ED.... plus I want to start leaning out for the rest of the summer and then get ready for my next cycle.

**nevaenuf** · 07-02-2003, 10:36 AM

Good post

**TANK01** · 07-02-2003, 10:41 AM

Great post m8, sorry it's your last shot !

I'm in week 1 so I got a long way to go !

**Lift Chief** · 07-02-2003, 11:14 AM

Sorry to hear you're all done... i'm starting a 12 weeker tomorrow

teeheeteeheeteehee

**BUYLONGTERM** · 07-02-2003, 11:32 AM

Cycle:
I started most of it off being a very low dose

Week 1-8 250mg of Test Enan
Week 1-8 200mg of EQ
Week 9-16 400mg of Test
Week 9-12 350mg of EQ
Week 12-16 50mg of Winny ED. ( I had to stop early do due a lot of shoulder/joint pain.)

Believe it or not, I did see some nice gains even at that low of a dose, but I still decided to up the dose to see how my body would react to it.

Well, as you can tell I was extremely out of shape back in January.(pics in member pic forum) I could barely lift 135pds. My bench went up to 200pds (max). its funny, when I also did seated dips, I was doing around 135pds, and now I rep out the whole stack (255pds) for 8 reps..

I really hit every single goal I wanted. I never thought I'd be able to bench over 185pds in my life. But, Now I'm saying 225-250 here I come!!!!!!!

My life has been changed forever!!!!

**johnsomebody** · 07-02-2003, 06:09 PM

Hey Buddy, I'm glad to hear everything's gone okay! I was beginning to worry you might never quit!

Now someday I've got to....

Take care bro -it's been fun!!

**BUYLONGTERM** · 07-02-2003, 11:42 PM

JS, bro, I'm here for the long haul. I hope all is well with you. Yeah, It's tough not being on a cycle, but safety is the most important thing!!!! I am going to take it easy for a bit, then of course plan my next cycle.......