a great cycle?

**new guy** · 07-01-2003, 01:28 PM

I am about to start my first cycle an would like for someone with a lot more experience tell me a great cycle for a newbie. I stated earlier that i thought i wanted to take sust 250 because i was under the impression that it was the best newbie product. i read the cycle charts on a couple of web pages, including this own, and they just seem weak compared to what these forums state. I want to get the best results. I can also get deca and maybe dball. If you could help me out with a good cycle and when to take what with how much the whole nine yards. please remember that i am a newbie and if you could keep it as simple as possible so i can understand it. this is alos my first time so keep that in consideration also

**PURE ADRENALINE** · 07-01-2003, 01:29 PM

http://www.anabolicreview.com/cyclenov.php

**daem** · 07-01-2003, 01:32 PM

1-10 deca 300mg/wk
1-10 sust 500mg/wk (M/W/F injects)

if u want you could throw in the dbol weeks 1-4.

have clomid for post and nolva in case any gyno problems arise.

**iron4life79** · 07-01-2003, 01:59 PM

how old are you bro?
stats please.........

also, do you want to bulk or cut? neither of the aas you mentioned are good for cutting imho.
daem layed out a good beginner cycle for you, depending on what you want to accomplish with this cycle.

peace I4L

**01dragonslayer** · 07-01-2003, 02:41 PM

If this is your first cycle I would suggest running a single estered test, i.e., enth or cyp along with your deca . You could thow in the d-dol the first 4wks to jump start your cycle, but IMO I would not run more than 30mg/ED being your first stack. You could also add some winny towards the end to harden you up and to help solify your gains. Don't forget to run an anti-e throughout and have your nolva on hand. Clomid, of course, for your post cycle recovery.

**new guy** · 07-02-2003, 10:48 AM

im 21 165 ive been cut up i want to put on mass and strength. i worked out hard for the past 3 years and gained some weight ans strength but nothing like you guys. i still want my muscles to be cut but basically i want mass. i will give up some cutness for strength anyday, but the mass i put on i do not want it to be all in my gut.

**01dragonslayer** · 07-02-2003, 11:44 AM

Wks 1-4 30mg/ED D-bol Wks 1-12 500mg/wk Test enth
Wks 1-11 400mg/wk Deca
Wks 8-13 50mg/ED winny(opitional)

Armidex, liquidex, or femara as your anti-e throughout and have your nolva on hand. Start your post cycle clomid wk14(one day after your last dose of winny) at 300mg/1st day; 100mg/ED days 2-11; and 50mg/ED days 12-21. Don't foget a liver protectant with the d-bol as it is heptoxic. Same goes with the winny.