Test 400 injections aren't working.

**ClubFoot** · 05-18-2016, 11:48 AM

It's been a while since I last posted on here but I am in need of more advice.

I have used steroids now for some time and I have never had an issue with them. I usually do a 12-16 week cycle with a pct afterwards.

Last cycles include Test 400 and Deca 150, other Test 400 and TriTren - no issues, great results.

This time it all gone a little pear shaped.

I've been injecting Test 400 ONLY. I had half a bottle left over from my last cycle which worked great so I used this to kick off my latest cycle.

The original test 400 was from Renvex Labs, once this was used I turned to t400 from Malay Tiger. I've been jabbing 2ml a week as usual, 1ml every 3 days.

I am now 8 weeks in and NOTHING. None of the usual effects - no increase in sex drive, no increase in strength, no increase in endurance. Nothing, nada, butt kiss.

I know the gear is good as I've been buying from the same supplier for years, and others on the same stuff from the same batch are seeing the results and feeling great.

Has this happened to anyone else? I can't find an explanation anywhere on the net.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

**clarky.** · 05-18-2016, 01:07 PM

Fake.. No other answer if your training and eating like you always do and see good results and keep growing cycle after cycle.

**ClubFoot** · 05-18-2016, 01:17 PM

I began the course with gear from a previous cycle which worked great, yet this time round it didn't work.

I'm not buying the fake card, simply down to the source I'm getting it from and the number of years I've been getting it.

I'm more inclined to think it has something to do with my Estrogen levels being high.

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 05-18-2016, 01:50 PM

If you were injecting 800mg per week of test you would be seeing results.
Have you gained any weight?

If no weight gain, then your gear is fake or underdosed as stated above.

**ClubFoot** · 05-18-2016, 01:56 PM

Weight has plateaud, as has everything else.

Just to make it clear, I used gear which I know to be good from a previous cycle. This had no effect on me this time round. This is the same gear from the same bottle I used in a previous cycle.

This had no effect.

This leads me to believe it is not the gear rather something else.

I'd rather leave the fake gear concept alone and concentrate on possible other factors.

**Back In Black** · 05-18-2016, 02:23 PM

Erm, get some bloodwork.......

**ClubFoot** · 05-18-2016, 02:51 PM

Would love to but it causes issues with life insurance policies.

**ClubFoot** · 05-18-2016, 02:53 PM

Should point out, the test must be doing something as it is causing the usual testicular atrophy.

**Dj Screw** · 05-18-2016, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by ClubFoot

Would love to but it causes issues with life insurance policies.

You can get independent blood work done at discountedlabs dot com if you are in the US and you won't have to worry about life insurance issues and you can stop guessing what is wrong with you or the gear.

Good luck

**ClubFoot** · 05-18-2016, 03:03 PM

Understood but I'm in the UK.

**Dj Screw** · 05-18-2016, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by ClubFoot

Understood but I'm in the UK.

Oh, that sucks. I am sure some UK guys will chime in and have a solution for you to get blood work done.

**jstone** · 05-18-2016, 03:20 PM

If your in the UK, some of the guys from the UK say you can get bloodwork at some needle exchanges.

**musclestack** · 05-18-2016, 08:59 PM

You said on your last cycle you were also running multiple compounds. Could be that those other compounds were legit but the Test wasn't. As mentioned, blood work is the only way to truly tell.

**jstone** · 05-18-2016, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by musclestack

You said on your last cycle you were also running multiple compounds. Could be that those other compounds were legit but the Test wasn't. As mentioned, blood work is the only way to truly tell.

Or the other compounds were sold as one thing, but were really test. Lots of more expensive compounds are often just test.

**ClubFoot** · 05-19-2016, 03:15 AM

I hear what your saying but again that's a no no. Like most of you who do the same cycle time after time I know what effects each steroid has on my body. Tri Tren has certain effects on me which raises its head time after time and the last time was no different. When I do a cycle of Deca and test, again, we all know what the effects are there.

I'd like to think I know enough about my body and the effects each of the steroids has on it to make an informed judgement on what is taking place.

I know what the effects are of each steroid I'm placing in my body.

It is simply this time, it is having none of the usual effects.

**ClubFoot** · 05-19-2016, 03:20 AM

I have been reading other threads on other sites and noticed people who are on TRT, and going through the correct channels with Dr's, have experienced similar plateaus.

I know they are not on the same level of gear I am but again they mention similar situations with no explanation.

The TRT works for a while and then the effects become stagnant.

**Mr.BB** · 05-19-2016, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by ClubFoot

Understood but I'm in the UK.

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**AR's King Silabolin** · 05-19-2016, 06:18 AM

Rich Piana says there is no such thing as test 400 or 300. Those are fake and underdosed. Max is 270-280.
And your good results last time could rize from the tritren, which is the best ive ever tried.

**InternalFire** · 05-19-2016, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

Rich Piana says ...

damn bro no offence but thats the last person to listen to, to take advice from or give advice quoting him to somebody else. What next, fake plates and synthol overflow? Cmon man we can do better than this, peace bro

**Mr.BB** · 05-19-2016, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

Rich Piana says there is no such thing as test 400 or 300. Those are fake and underdosed. Max is 270-280.

This is actually true. T400 is marketing.

**musclestack** · 05-19-2016, 09:40 AM

OP: Blood work. That is all.

Please post back when you have your results.

**Mp859** · 05-19-2016, 10:36 AM

I'm sorry but if your diet and training are right and you aren't gaining, your gear is fake. It's that simple

**InternalFire** · 05-19-2016, 10:39 AM

If you go and mix certain raws, brew it and sell it as ugl in quantities, how does it not exist? When you hold it in your hand and draw to the syringe, does that just turn in to antimatter and suck the whole planet in to a black hole because it "doesnt exist". Just laughing here if course with a silly example but if its made right Im sure as hell it does exist. You can take milk jug and write test400 and sure as fuck it wont exist hahahahahhaa

**jstone** · 05-19-2016, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

This is actually true. T400 is marketing.

I have seen simec testing of testosterone products dosed up to 500mg/ml. 400 can definitely hold. Rich piano is a dip shit.

I see some blends that have 700mg/ml, and I have never seen that high of concentration tested, but 400 shouldn't be a problem.

If you have test 400 and its giving you no pip then you test more than likely isn't dosed at 400mg/ml.