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    advice on first cycle

    hey about to start my first ever cycle i have purchased everything that think i need and I wanted to just get a 2nd opinion from all of you people ... As i believe I have done my research i still am a bit worried...
    this is what i would like to run...
    Cycle #1
    Anavar 50-80mg ED Weeks 1-8
    Test Prop 500mg (100mg EOD) Weeks 1-8
    HCG 500iu (250iu pinned Monday/Thursday)

    Avena Sativa 2-4g ED Weeks 1-8
    NAC 600MG Twice ED Weeks 1-8

    Clomid 70/70/35/35
    Nolvadex Breakdown
    40/20/20/20mg

    My stats are 6'1 , 205 lbs. No idea percent body fat(was suppose to go for a scan but haven't yet) ... My diet is low carb, high protein... My goal is to lean out more, i still hold a lot of fat on my body and would like to stay roughly 200-210lbs. but a leaner meaner version of my self...

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    The few things I'm worried about as well as the noob questions are...
    Test prop, I purchased a bottle its 10ml. at 150mg/ml. Is 100 mg of test a lot to be doing every other day?... or should i start in smaller dosages?, like twice a week possibly? ... And what is with the test prop 500mg? ... I dont understand this what so ever? , Am i suppose to take 500 mg right off the hop?...
    HCG , Ive had so many people tell me that the HCG doesn't have to be ran until later on in the cycle ? , as well I've heard that 500iu is too much to be doing per week, what are your guys thoughts on this?...
    The anavar should i be running more ?, possibly 100 MG per day?
    Ive tried finding the arena sativa everywhere and I can't... is that a make or break ? ... everything else i have purchased and ready to go...
    as far as taking the climid and nolvadex, that should be done at the 8 week mark?, and how much and how long should I be taking these drugs for? ...

    sorry for all the noob questions and i hope someone can answer this cause I'm wanting to start this today/tomorrow

    thank you for everyones time

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    Ditch that cycle plan and follow this for a sucessfull first cycle:

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Ditch that cycle plan and follow this for a sucessfull first cycle:

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

    X2. Follow it to the letter and you'll be just fine.
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    X3 - following it myself for my first, no complaints!

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    i read it over but It didnt really tell me if I would be ok or not? ... Ill read it over again I guess
    any help would be great because i will start next week

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    as long as you guys tell me im not going to get sick and have my hair fall out this si what I'm going to do
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKTHETANK604 View Post
    i read it over but It didnt really tell me if I would be ok or not? ... Ill read it over again I guess
    any help would be great because i will start next week
    So you read it, and it in no way said to do what you are planning on doing, but you are still going to do it?

    What's the point in even asking if you aren't going to follow the advice?

    Honestly, I don't like your cycle. How old are you?

    First, you only need test for a first cycle. We say this because you don't know how you will respond to test alone. So when you add in something else, you don't know which caused certain sides or which gave certain results. There is no way to pinpoint without prior experience with each. Add in a second compound on a second cycle.

    Second, I prefer a longer ester for a first cycle. This is primarily due to the injection frequency. Assuming you have never injected before, it is not easy at first. It took me about an hour to convince myself to do it on my first cycle. I did not look forward to it twice a week at first. Your plan has you injecting 3-4 times per week. How do you know if you will be capable of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noles12 View Post
    So you read it, and it in no way said to do what you are planning on doing, but you are still going to do it?

    What's the point in even asking if you aren't going to follow the advice?

    Honestly, I don't like your cycle. How old are you?

    First, you only need test for a first cycle. We say this because you don't know how you will respond to test alone. So when you add in something else, you don't know which caused certain sides or which gave certain results. There is no way to pinpoint without prior experience with each. Add in a second compound on a second cycle.

    Second, I prefer a longer ester for a first cycle. This is primarily due to the injection frequency. Assuming you have never injected before, it is not easy at first. It took me about an hour to convince myself to do it on my first cycle. I did not look forward to it twice a week at first. Your plan has you injecting 3-4 times per week. How do you know if you will be capable of this?
    Thanks for the advice , I read it over and am going for a full bod scan test this weekend... To get B.F. percentage and to get my calorie count and on the perfect diet. This will be the deciding factor on weather I start it this monday or in a few weeks...
    Im 27 years old, I would listen to the advice if there was advice given... People are just saying read the link read the link, no one answered any one of my questions...
    And for the needles, I'm a bit worried but it takes what it takes I'm sure the first needle might take 30 mins or what ever but its just a needle, its not really what I'm worried about, the only thing I'm worried about is if I'm doing the proper procedure and doing it correctly and efficiently. Test alone does make sense , but its not what I want to achieve... Ive been waiting 4.5 years to have the time to do an actual cycle of steroids (been working 70-90 hours per week and away from home), I've recently made adjustments to be home so that I can start this routine and am excited. I know anavar is a powerful steroid along side with the test and ecg but I dont think its going to be an absolute killer. My diet is dialled in, I've put my time in the gym without the stuff and I am more ready then I've ever been to do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKTHETANK604 View Post
    Thanks for the advice , I read it over and am going for a full bod scan test this weekend... To get B.F. percentage and to get my calorie count and on the perfect diet. This will be the deciding factor on weather I start it this monday or in a few weeks...
    Im 27 years old, I would listen to the advice if there was advice given... People are just saying read the link read the link, no one answered any one of my questions...
    And for the needles, I'm a bit worried but it takes what it takes I'm sure the first needle might take 30 mins or what ever but its just a needle, its not really what I'm worried about, the only thing I'm worried about is if I'm doing the proper procedure and doing it correctly and efficiently. Test alone does make sense , but its not what I want to achieve... Ive been waiting 4.5 years to have the time to do an actual cycle of steroids (been working 70-90 hours per week and away from home), I've recently made adjustments to be home so that I can start this routine and am excited. I know anavar is a powerful steroid along side with the test and ecg but I dont think its going to be an absolute killer. My diet is dialled in, I've put my time in the gym without the stuff and I am more ready then I've ever been to do this.
    Are you serious? The advice given is the advice that is in the link you were sent. That is the ONLY advice for a first time cycle. The problem is you want someone to tell you that your proposed cycle is OK because you already bought the gear and you're hell-bent on doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKTHETANK604 View Post
    People are just saying read the link read the link, no one answered any one of my questions...

    It's because the link is exactly what you should do for a safe and very effective first cycle. More is not always better, especially when you're new to this game and not totally educated on everything just yet. Be patient, you'll do great on a test only cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGenRit View Post
    Are you serious? The advice given is the advice that is in the link you were sent. That is the ONLY advice for a first time cycle. The problem is you want someone to tell you that your proposed cycle is OK because you already bought the gear and you're hell-bent on doing it.
    dude I couldn't give 2 shits on spending the money on the gear. I wanna know if I'm going to lose my hair and cock. I also bought a shit ton of winnstrol but decided against it. Money is not the issue. Its more or less time. The longer I wait the less of a chance I will have to be able to do this stuff. Ive been on a solid health kick now and I feel as if I'm ready. I read the link, hell i even took notes and postponed so i could get the bod test done. I just want some solid advice for people who ran similar cycles or just give some quick pointers.
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKTHETANK604 View Post
    dude I couldn't give 2 shits on spending the money on the gear. I wanna know if I'm going to lose my hair and cock. I also bought a shit ton of winnstrol but decided against it. Money is not the issue. Its more or less time. The longer I wait the less of a chance I will have to be able to do this stuff. Ive been on a solid health kick now and I feel as if I'm ready. I read the link, hell i even took notes and postponed so i could get the bod test done. I just want some solid advice for people who ran similar cycles or just give some quick pointers.
    thanks
    You are being stubborn. You're cycle is not one you should run for a first cycle.

    Will you lose your hair? Possibly.
    Will you struggle with EOD pinning on a first cycle? Most likely
    Will you be able to distinguish between which compound when it comes to sides, gains, or physical changes? Nope because you have no prior knowledge of one by itself.

    There is no point in continuing to ask the same question when you dont hear the answer you want. Either take the advice and run a proper first cycle, or don't and deal with the consequences.

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