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06-06-2016, 09:35 AM #1Productive Member
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Crystallized NPP...still good?
I received 5 vials of NPP (UGL) and found that all of them are crystallized on the bottom. This is the first time I've personally dealt with this issue so I want to get some feedback from you guys. I've run a search on here as well as googled this, and it seems as though the consensous is that I just need to heat it up to get rid of the crystals. The NPP is dosed at 150mg/mL, so I imagine this is the main reason it crashed.
I have a few concerns:
Is the gear still good, in your opinion?
Will heating it up effect the potency of the gear at all?
Will I need to heat it up every time I pin (I pin every day)?
Will heating it up every day for 10 weeks effect the potency?
I appreciate any input I can get from people who have dealt with this issue before.
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06-06-2016, 10:38 AM #2
The gear is stil good.
Heating up will not effect the potency the first times.
I think so yes, mine recrystallized the next day.
More heating will make the prosess less effective, after a few times it will not work anymore and i guess the gear will only be 50% cause the rest is at the bottom.
Well, these answers i based on my erperience and dialog with the supplier of sr9009. My sr9009 crystallizised.
Guess its mabye the same prinsipp.
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06-06-2016, 06:37 PM #3RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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MS your npp is fine.
Run a vial under warm tap water until the crystals dissolve then pin away.
Warming it up will not effect the potency.
If you keep a dissolved vial at a steady temperature, and don't introduce any sudden shock, then you should only have to warm it once.
I don't see you having a potency issue if you need to warm a vial multiple times.
Have you contacted your supplier, any chance for a refund?
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06-06-2016, 08:07 PM #4Productive Member
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I contacted the supplier, and he basically told me the same thing you did. I didn't really press the issue of asking for a refund; I just wanted input on whether or not it would be okay (yes, yes, I know, silly to ask a guy who's making money on the product whether or not what he sold me is ok). Even if he replaced it, all he has is NPP dosed at 150mg, which I believe is the reason why it crashed, so an exchange wouldn't help me out anyway.
In any case, tonight I boiled some water, took it off the stove and put it into a tupperware bowl. I filled enough water around the vial just to keep the water level below the rubber stopper (I realize they're supposed to be air tight, but I didn't want to take any chances). I left the vial in for roughly 10 minutes, took it out and swirled it around a bit. Almost all the crystallization was gone with the exception of two or three little tiny specs. I pinned and everything went fine. I think I'll heat it one more time tomorrow to try and get the last of it gone. I left the vial sitting in my bedroom. After an hour, it still looks the same. I'll check it in the morning again. Hopefully it does not recrystallize.
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06-07-2016, 09:54 AM #5
I've had my gear crash on me many times. They all worked fine when I heated them up first. If you trust your source then I wouldn't worry about it.
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06-07-2016, 01:06 PM #6Productive Member
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06-07-2016, 08:01 PM #7Productive Member
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UPDATE:
Got back from the gym tonight, and checked on the NPP. It looked the same as when I put it away last night...just a few small specks at the bottom. I heated it one more time in hot water I heat up on the stove (not quite boiling this time), put it in a bowl and submerged the vial up to the rubber stopper. Within a few minutes, the last of the specks disappeared. Gotta say, I was pretty relieved. I'll update one last time tomorrow for those who are interested, but I'm pretty confident it will not crash again.
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06-07-2016, 09:24 PM #8
A coffee maker works good run the Machine with no coffee pour the water in a pan with vials let sit for 10mins and repeat 3 times I've found this to be the easiest way and if it crash agin probably need a little bb and bake in oven
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06-08-2016, 07:30 AM #9Productive Member
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06-08-2016, 02:04 PM #10
I just put my vial under hot running water for a couple of minutes and the crystals will dissolve. Unfortunately, once your gear crashes you have to warm it up each time before you pin it.
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06-08-2016, 04:35 PM #11
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06-09-2016, 07:27 AM #12Productive Member
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UPDATE:
No crystals in NPP last night. Injected without having to warm it up. Hopefully it will remain this way.
Thanks everyone for all of the responses.
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06-09-2016, 10:23 AM #13RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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