Need some guidance

[Couchlock]

I'm considering starting a testosterone cypinate cycle I have a few questions I don't know where to put them comma it has to deal with alternatives to stuff such as aromasin and using somatropin instead of HCG

Somebody point me in the right direction where I can post at these questions or directly in this post

I have found a good or what I think is a good source for the following drugs:
Arimidex (anastrozole)
Clomid (clomiphene)
Test cyp

I also need to know if I can use somotropin instead of HCG

also will I need Nolvadex (tamoxifen) aromasin (exemestane)? If using arimidex and Clomid?

I'm not going to go about this unprepared, I will have everything on hand in surplus before anything

Thanks

[Scorpion0922]

What are your stats?

Somatropin is growth hormone, hcg is used to help restart the production of test after a cycle. Two polar opposites.

[Couchlock]

What are your stats?

Somatropin is growth hormone, hcg is used to help restart the production of test after a cycle. Two polar opposites.

5'6"
135lbs

285 max press

90lb dumbbell bench for 5 sets of 10-8 reps

I don't squat or deadlift

Body fat is around 10 to 15% depending on week

[Scorpion0922]

Looking pretty lea in that picture! SOOOO then next question is; what are your goals from this cycle?

I like the idea of a test only cycle for you and I love the fact that you're covering all of your bases before jumping in.

Test 350 mg's a week, maybe 400 weeks 1-12 or 14

OCT:
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

PCT:
clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod

*** I'm on TRT so I may not be the best reseouce for PCT

Diet need to be ON POINT long before you start with changes as necessary

No drinking

I advise the use of a multi vitamin daily

BCAA's while doing cardio and during training

[Couchlock]

Yes 6 years ago I was 250 pounds of cheap bubble gum as you can imagine some supplements and such herbs and tribulus excetera the only thing is I can't find Nova or HCG on website that's what I plan on ordering from so I was looking they had Clomid n aridex

Unless you know of a reliable source that has everything I need all in one shot as in a website that has all those products but I'm a little weary because my place I'm considering just has great reviews and such

Yes everything's on point other than gear at the moment no I do not drink at all but a lot of cannabis

[Couchlock]

Goals are to add a good 10lbs of lean muscle

Qwikly

I'm 33 in November

[Scorpion0922]

Be VERY careful what you say about sources. Could lead to a banning and you could find yourself easily scammed.

10 pounds of lean muscle is not going to happen overnight, you are going to need to be VERY patient.

Drop the weed.

[Couchlock]

Not gonna drop the weed lol
Cannabinoids are great for cellular function

[Scorpion0922]

Do what you will.

[Couchlock]

I just need to know if Clomid AND Nolvadex are a must for PCT, can I use Clomid alone?

And for oct, do I have to have hcg, can i use arimidex alone?

[Scorpion0922]

IMO yes, you do NOT skimp on PCT. You'll be in a world of hurt.

You don't HAVE TO do anything, I advised based on this statement:

"I'm not going to go about this unprepared, I will have everything on hand in surplus before anything"

[Couchlock]

Cool, I actually decided to drop weed after thinking last night

1) So Clomid And Nolvadex are a must?
2) the hcg also a must?
3) arimidex dose? .25mg EOD good or every day?

4) should I throw mesterolone in there?

I'm very open to advice, I just need my plan of attack

I wish I can PM for more direct inquiring....

[Lemonada8]

for PCT def use clomid and nolva both.
clomid 100-100-50-50
Nolva 40-40-20-20-20-20
Thats mg ED per week, so 4 weeks for clomid and 6 for nolva
HCG on cycle 2x a week at 250-500ius a shot

[Scorpion0922]

Cool, I actually decided to drop weed after thinking last night

1) So Clomid And Nolvadex are a must?
2) the hcg also a must?
3) arimidex dose? .25mg EOD good or every day?

4) should I throw mesterolone in there?

I'm very open to advice, I just need my plan of attack

I wish I can PM for more direct inquiring....

PCT is the most vital part of the cycle, use all 3: better safe than sorry.

No need to add provi now. One step @ a time.

You are very smart going about this with an open mind and making sure your ducks are in a row B4 starting. Great move.

No need to PM, that's what the guys on the board are here for. This way you get help from the whole crew not just one guy.

Smart on the weed!

[Couchlock]

Balkan any good?

I'm probably gonna pull the trigger on this kit

As I'd like to use my first choice, but they don't have hcg or Nolvadex

And I have to have a minimum 200$ order from the place here in pic that has Nolvadex n hcg for sale

So I'm better off going this route, pictured above?

[Scorpion0922]

I can't comment on Balkan, I'll hand off to the board on opinions on that.

Do not use clen.

I'd avoid these pre-packaged "deals" just be cautious on where you buy from. Stay safe.

[Couchlock]

I didn't plan on using the clenbuterol now I'm looking at this I see it's lacking something arimidex

Damnit

This is making my brain melt

[Couchlock]

Also, will I feel like Shit or and loose what I gained while on cycle when i go on PCT?

if I will feel worse or more crappy and tired or get fat when I cycle off, is it worth it?

I like how I look now, and I'm strong as tits for a 135lb man. I have even dropped to 127lbs and maintained my one rep max of 285 on bench

I really don't want to loose my physique after cycle on PCT.

I'm a tad nervous as I don't want to kick start cancers either.

Also I just convinced my doc to give me TRT, but it's no where near accepted doses of test cyp

He's giving me 200mg per month

I think that can do more harm than good?

[Couchlock]

Also, will I feel like Shit or and loose what I gained while on cycle when i go on PCT?

if I will feel worse or more crappy and tired or get fat when I cycle off, is it worth it?

I like how I look now, and I'm strong as tits for a 135lb man. I have even dropped to 127lbs and maintained my one rep max of 285 on bench

I really don't want to loose my physique after cycle on PCT.

I'm a tad nervous as I don't want to kick start cancers either.

Also I just convinced my doc to give me TRT, but it's no where near accepted doses of test cyp

He's giving me 200mg per month

I think that can do more harm than good?

[hammerheart]

He's giving me 200mg per month

Like in a single injection? Yes, much worse.

[Couchlock]

Like in a single injection? Yes, much worse.

Yes

I just got it this morning

I'm not taking another unless he ups it to at least once a week

Fuck that noise jack

[Scorpion0922]

TRT is a big decision, once you go on TRT you're on it forever. Do you have Low-T? 33 is still pretty young.

You're never going to keep all of your gains but you can keep a lot;

A) You need to have your diet and training dialed in LONG before you start a cycle and continue them both after. When I was young & stupid I made the mistake of slacking a bit after a cycle. BIG mistake.

B) You need a strong PCT.

You not going to get cancer from a cycle.

[Couchlock]

what I don't understand how do we know more about this then the fucking doctors like she's telling me once a month I'm sitting there thinking are you out of your fucking mind then So just going to give me a shot only going to shut me down

[Scorpion0922]

Ahhhhh, welcome to the world of TRT.

Doctors (for the most part) are concerned about $$$$, not the patient. I can't blame them, I'm not always concerned with my clients as much as I am the commission.

TRT is also still a pretty new arena...200 a week is a ballpark dose for TRT, maybe a little more or less depending on the guy. I'd ask the doctor to elaborate on the reasons for 200/month.

[Couchlock]

Monday got appointment with endocrinologist

No reason they shouldn't give me

Test c 200mg at least 1xweek
Hcg 250iu 2xweek
Anastrozole .25mg-. 5mg eod

Levels of t was 410ng/dl

Low, right?

[Scorpion0922]

IMO, yes that's low.

The doctor may have a different opinion on what's "low"

I will say again how impressed I am with you covering all the bases....Havin said that; keep in mind that once you start TRT it's pretty much a lifetime commitment. There are some guys that come off and have no issues, but that's very rare.

[Couchlock]

I'm no dummy

I know what happens off cycle and the like

How can anyone in there right mind just go ahead with AAS and not think about sides and how to properly manage them

I mean what's itvall for then?

Your going to turn into a limp Dick ballless women when over without getting that homeostasis back to normal.

That being said, you can't will away sides and shutdown

I been reading about and consideration of a cycle since May 2012

Held off till now, because I read that get to your max natty potential and diet tight before even considering

I did my part on that

[Scorpion0922]

I'm no dummy

I know what happens off cycle and the like

How can anyone in there right mind just go ahead with AAS and not think about sides and how to properly manage them

I've been asking this for 20 years brotha!

I mean what's itvall for then?

Your going to turn into a limp Dick ballless women when over without getting that homeostasis back to normal.

That being said, you can't will away sides and shutdown

I been reading about and consideration of a cycle since May 2012

Held off till now, because I read that get to your max natty potential and diet tight before even considering

I did my part on that

All these ^^ are great points.

[Couchlock]

Maybe test c first half n test p second half?

I'm waiting on endocrinologist appointment to see what's going to happen when I go

I may decide to run cycle without hcg

I'm very confused by info I read, actually not confused, more I just want to read want want to hear

Are you a doctor scorpion?

[Scorpion0922]

Just stick with Test C soup to nuts.

I'm not a doctor, but I'll take that as a compliment

[Couchlock]

So I spoke with the endocrinologist today about the once-a-month injections

He told me yes that is not the correct way when I told him about the HCG and Arimidex that should be prescribe dwell on trt Kama he outright said no that's bodybuilding stuff

He wanted a full and thorough workup on my blood PSA levels and all kind of other things that we're not done yet I'll have the results of those Bloods tomorrow or the next day

I literally almost wanted to choke the guy when he said bodybuilding stuff and gave me the stink-eye

I told him hold on one minute, yes well that might make performance in the gym all much better why would that be a bad thing

I also told him that's like giving someone the keys to a Bentley azure and telling them you better not enjoy driving this car if I catch you smiling one time while you're driving I'm taking it away

So What should I not want to reap the benefits of higher testosterone levels for building muscle

Some of these doctors man are fucked in their heads

[Scorpion0922]

He's half right. AI may or may not be needed, if you have estrogen levels off the charts then what is he going to say?

Maybe consider another doctor. When I moved to a new part of the US, it took me a couple of TRT docs to find the right 1 for me.

[Couchlock]

I don't think this is for me at all

It's quit common to put on alot of fat after a cycle and loose gains

Not for me I think

Plus I'm a generally pretty temperamental person

Don't think I want to throw my hormones
Off.

He said some people adjust or functions fine with lower T levels, it may be normal for me

[Scorpion0922]

I don't think this is for me at all

It's quit common to put on alot of fat after a cycle and loose gains

Only if guys are morons and don't diet and run a proper PCT.

Not for me I think

Plus I'm a generally pretty temperamental person

Don't think I want to throw my hormones
Off.

He said some people adjust or functions fine with lower T levels, it may be normal for me

Yea, you can live with Low T. It's a big commitment to go on TRT and not a commitment everyone is willing to make.

[Mr.BB]

If you dont have symptoms you dont have low T. 400's is pretty normal, more important is free T.

Take some vit D, it will increase a bit.

Kudos for staying natty.

[Couchlock]

I got a full blood coming back tomorrow

Lipids psa, the whole 9 yards

What's are normal ranges for the important readings?

I hope that one 200mg test c shot 10 days ago doesn't fuck me over?

[Couchlock]

Here's a before n after
My journey
2012



2014

[Scorpion0922]

I don't impress easily but......wow!

[Couchlock]

[Couchlock]

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Doc said I'm dam healthy