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    Need Advice

    Hi members, I bought some steroids to start my cycle, but the lady asked me a few times if I was going to do competition. Which had me thinking if the Novice II cycle was to much for me. I've taken steroids before, but it's been about 10 years. My new stacking cycle consists of:

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    1-12 Cypionate 400mg per week
    1-10 Deca Durabolin 200mg per week
    1-6 Dianabol 30mg each day.

    Is this to much to return taking steroids again? I'm not looking to get very big, just stronger. The first time I took them it worked out great. But I don't remember what I actually took or how much. Also last time I took clomid and some other stuff that I don't remember for the post cycle. What should do you guys think I should take this cycle and post cycle? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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    Better to do this if last cycle was 10 years ago: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html
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    Too much IMO.

    After 10 years you have a fresh start. That's a good thing because with the help of this board you can do this the right way.

    Can you post age, height, weight, etc.?

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    I'm 5'6", 180 pounds, 39 years old, but I look about 10 years younger(based on friends and random people). I'm not completely out of shape.

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    I look a lot younger than my 42 years as well...rock on!

    I would like to know BF% if you can get that.

    This is a classic case of K.I.S.S. nice simple test only cycle. Diet & training need to be dialed in 110% before you start.

    BLOOD TEST BEFORE YOU START!

    Week 1 - 12 Test C 350 mg/week
    Week 1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
    11-14 HCG 1000 IU's week

    PCT:
    Clomid 50/50/25/25
    Nolva 40/20/20/20
    Aromasin 12.5 mg eod

    I'm on TRT so I may not be up to date on the "perfect PCT"

    Any other goals here besides getting stronger?

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    Thanks scorpion, do u think I could use the same product I've bought but at lower dosage? On the PCT you suggested 12.5 mg eod of Aromasin but didn't indicate for how long. 4 weeks? Thanks again for taking the time to help out.

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    Read the link BB posted for you. Pct is only serms, nolva,clomid no AI in pct. Read the link for your own good.
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    Got your back Jack.

    I don't know what you mean by this:

    "do u think I could use the same product I've bought but at lower dosage?"

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    200 mg of deca will help with joint pain but will do little/nothing for gains, especially 10 weeks worth.Deca is very hard to recover from so what's the point? Dbol - won't hurt anything in my opinion. You'll survive a 4 or 6 week run with it. Good strength gains. Be sure you take that ai though.

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    Thanks Shaun.
    scorpion I was thinking on taking less of the stuff I've purchased. Like 300mg cypio. Also I'm going to try to get my blood work this Friday. I'll post the results here if you can take a look at them. I feel I might have low Testosterone .
    clarky. I did read all that Mr. BB posted on the link. It was helpful but I feel that this time is my last time and feel comfortable with taking a bit more than a beginner. I did stack last time and had very great results. I don't remember what I actually took, but I did get the cycle recommendations from here.
    Thanks everyone for taking the time and responding here.

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    I got my blood work back. Precycle
    FSH 3.26
    LH 2.92
    TST TOT 4.61
    Any suggestions on what these numbers mean or is there something I'm missing from the blood work?

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    Thats the full bloodwork???

    We need units and ranges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion0922 View Post

    Week 1 - 12 Test C 350 mg/week
    Week 1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
    11-14 HCG 1000 IU's week

    PCT:
    Clomid 50/50/25/25
    Nolva 40/20/20/20
    Aromasin 12.5 mg eod

    I'm on TRT so I may not be up to date on the "perfect PCT"
    Curious as to your recommendation of 350 - where as the standard on the forum seems to be 500.

    Not being argumentative, not my goal at all. Actually was just told by a trainer that he was shocked by my using 525 for my first cycle.

    Sorry Viruz for the brief hijack of your thread.

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    Mr. BB, I got a few blood test done. Not sure which results to post or if I could take a picture or a pdf file and add it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viruz76 View Post
    Mr. BB, I got a few blood test done. Not sure which results to post or if I could take a picture or a pdf file and add it here.
    Just make sure you erase your personnal information.

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    Here are my results, but they're in Spanish.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Need Advice-imag1456.jpg   Need Advice-imag1457.jpg   Need Advice-imag1458.jpg  

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    No hay problema.

    The hormones are normal, but you have seriously high cholesterol 313 mg/dL, also your RBCs and hematocrit are high.

    The thing is steroids will further increase both cholesterol and bloods. You seriously need a diet overhaul to lower that cholesterol, you should have tested the HDL and LDL (you only have total cholesterol).

    Do you do any cardio?

    Do you smoke or live at high altitude?

    IMO you should get yourself healthier before doing steroids.

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    Ok 5'6 180 wat is your bf% and how long have you been back training?

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    Mr.BB I don't smoke nor do I live in a high altitude. The numbers might be a bit skewed since I didn't fasting before the blood work was done. I have change my diet and will keep track of my progress with another blood work in the near future.
    Songdog. I don't know by body fat percentage, but I'm not fat. I taken steroids before and had a lot of muscle mass. I'm about to start again and visit the doctor during my progress.
    Thanks guys, I keep you guys updated.

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    You need to know BF before starting a cycle, amigo. Make sure you do this safely.

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    Scorpion, seriously I am interested - where did you get 350 as a starting dosage? I understand the logic, but is this a number that is standard elsewhere besides this forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    Scorpion, seriously I am interested - where did you get 350 as a starting dosage? I understand the logic, but is this a number that is standard elsewhere besides this forum?
    IMO that's more than enough IF nutrition and training are on point. The problem in the AAS world is that those 2 pieces usually are NOT on point.

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    Thank you for your reply - just looking for other's perspectives, appreciated!

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