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    First cycle plan

    Hi to everyone, this is my first cycle plan. Mybe it s complicated but i think it s ok.
    I am 34 yo my stats are : height 182 cm weight 92 kg and my bodyfat it s around 15-16%.
    Previous experience : 2 clen cycle and 1 prohormone cycle.
    My goal is to reduce the bodyfat as much as possible and if i can to put some gains.
    My diet will be something like 2400 kcal ed with macros 220 gr protein 140-160 gr carbs and the rest fats.

    TEST C week 1-8 600 mg per week, 2 inj
    TEST P week 9-12 500 mg per week , inj eod and maybe ed
    proviron week 1-2 100mg ed and week 3-12 150mg ed
    arimidex 0.5 eod
    hcg 500 iu per week
    PCT : wait 4 days after the last inj and start.
    week 1-2 nolva 40 clomid 50
    week 3-4 nolva 20 clomid 50
    Also there is cialis 10 mg ed and 1800 mg ed

    I have some questions.
    !) Do you think that the AI dosage is ok? Can i go higher at 1mg e3d?
    2) I ll take proviron 2 times daily. Is it better with empty stomach or with food?
    3)Can i mix my hcg and put in syringes and store them for 3 weeks out of the fridge ?

    Thank you ... any comment is welcome

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    Welcome to the forum. This is a great start http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

    Basically keep the first cycle simple. Test E or Cyp 500mg/wk for 12 weeks. Take .25mg/eod of Adex and 250iu twice week of HCG . Wait 2 weeks after the last Test injection and start the 4 week PCT with Clomid 100/50/50/50 and Nolvadex 40/20/20/20. SUPER IMPORTANT: go to the diet section and work up a good cycle diet. Then go to the pool and have everyone admire your new body. Have fun.

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    Thanks for advice. I have read all the threads. I make my search for months
    Do you think proviron is useless at this moment, I already have it . Is it a problem if i use it ?
    Also i would like to use the test p to make an introduction to the short esters and i think it s a waste of time to wait for 18 days to start pct.
    As for the nutrition I think i know something, as i drop my body weight from 140 kg to 85 kg. Now i am 92 .
    One reason that i am starting steroids is to have the power to train harder on weights and cardio.
    All the gear and stuff is on hand so i play with what i got. But if it is needed i ll change something

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    Hi... today i had my 3rd injection on the glute. The 1st and 2nd were on quads and everything went well.
    Today when the needle went out i had enough blood... what does it mean ?
    The test stayed inside or came out with blood?

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    Well man, I dont known if its serious or not, I guess it depends if you got lots of blood coming out like flowing or squirting out, as sometines I too get little bleed out of my glutes but its like 1-2 tiny drops and I just press down on it and massage for short time like half a minute to a minute and its sound after.

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    Some blood is normal, you are supposed to press hard with alcohol swab immediately after needle removal.

    To minimize blood loss, dont pin after eating meal, and dont massage area before pinning. Massaging after is also not advised.

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    Thanks... i had blood , some drops like 7-10. The truth is that i didn t have ready alcohol swap and i had a delay till i open it.

    I pin first thing in the morning... but for the massage didn t know it. Some vids i saw advise massage after pin

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    I usually just use same alcohol swab to press on as I used to wipe the injection area. May not be ideal but neither the swab itself may be the ideal thing to begin with. Better than nothing.

    I tried pin and not to massage the area and I found I had more PIP vs when I massaged spot for at least several seconds post injection. It may be personal preference

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    Nowadays on the medical area is not advised. Small rub after bleeding stops is ok, but deep massage may move oil, and mess with rate of absortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Nowadays on the medical area is not advised. Small rub after bleeding stops is ok, but deep massage may move oil, and mess with rate of absortion.
    Gotcha. Meaning - mess with absorbtion rate - disperse over a wider area hence increasing absorbtion ratio/reducing time of absorbtion?

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