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    This made me think twice

    Ok so I'm 32, and unsure if I have low T. I weighed around 215 lbs naturally and now I'm around 190 haven't worked out in a year or so, I was training for a green beret program. I want to start a cycle to help my performance and was wondering if my T levels are normal now, say I take a 250 blend once a week will that stop my normal production and then leave me with only that 250mg a week opposed to whatever I was getting naturally a week ?

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    I am a newbie to this so wait for senior members, but yes I would imagine your natural test would shut down and leave you with whatever you are injecting.

    Get a blood test to determine your test levels before you assume they are low.

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    250mg will definitely shut you down.
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    Figured I could kind of boost ya know. But it's a more exspenive boost if I need to inject 700mg each week or whatever to top my natural release opposed to a 250 blend etc. each week

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudahZA View Post
    Get a blood test to determine your test levels before you assume they are low.
    This ^^. And if they are low, figure out why.
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    I don't think I'm low, rather I wanted to boost my performance with a cycle . I just wonder if I take 250 blend each week would that knock out my natural production and leave me with just that 250, assuming my natural T levels are higher then 250mg a week....that's the thing I'm getting all these questions come to mind now. What are average normal natural test production each week roughly for a 32 year old male. ( I understand 250mg a week will shutdown natural production) but is that number higher then the average 32 year old makes natural production ya know what I mean
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    This question has been asked but I cant post links.

    The thread, on this site is called "Natural testosterone levels mg/week?"

    The response was "The average male (18-35) produces somewhere in the range of 4-7mg of testosterone a day. That's 28-49mg per week for those who have difficulties with math."
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    Right on. Wow i had no idea of average production amounts. So even one dose of 1ml propionate is significantly higher then natural production for the whole week .Thanks
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    Cool man, just ask the vets here regarding esters, I am not familiar with the halflives yet.
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    I've researched it a bit actually, just was wondering that one specific. Now I'm wondering how long it will take for my normal levels to bounce back after just taking one dose of propionate at 125mg. Lol just wanted to sample it out like how or if it felt like anything ya know like "physically stimulating " before I started a cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marsoc
    I've researched it a bit actually, just was wondering that one specific. Now I'm wondering how long it will take for my normal levels to bounce back after just taking one dose of propionate at 125mg. Lol just wanted to sample it out like how or if it felt like anything ya know like "physically stimulating " before I started a cycle
    Not a good idea.
    If you are gonna cycle, then cycle right.
    There is no way to cheat the system.
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    I get it deadlift dog, I'm just curious as what I was in for as in a rush or anything ya know and I do plan to cycle properly and responsibly . I just was wondering them basics averages of natural production etc. so 250mg a week is a dose that will bring significant performance enhancement for a beginner? Ever hear of maha 250 blend. And on average how long would it take for normal natural Test production to resume Post cycle considering no permanent damage was done of course and no prior low test numbers god willing. Thanks fellas
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    You'll feel virtually nothing from one shot of 250 mg's test. You're simply throwing your HPTA into brief panic mode! You need to read the Successful First Cycle sticky thread at the top of this forum. It will help you greatly.
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    Yeah I'd hate to mess anything up I have going naturally. Thanks, I was hitting the gym and rucking with like 100lbs in my rucksack in the woods hard going for efficiency like it was my job training for the Army special forces program sfas Marsoc/recon or army green beret. I was around 220 natural and had my diet etc down to a science so it had no other option to work. I can get size and thickness pretty decent I just want to get past this age barrier that may hinder me a slight bit at age 32. Would I have to worry about any post cycle recovery regiment after injecting no more then 1.4 ml of 100 mg propionate just one single time . And I'm not trying to be some fool about this and throw my system into panic mode. That's why I'm trying to get all the feedback I can and consider various feed backs PS: I read that thread thanks brother. And I apologize for maybe being a little gunghoe on sampling the product I will respect all of this. Thanks again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marsoc View Post
    Yeah I'd hate to mess anything up I have going naturally. Thanks, I was hitting the gym and rucking with like 100lbs in my rucksack in the woods hard going for efficiency like it was my job training for the Army special forces program sfas Marsoc/recon or army green beret. I was around 220 natural and had my diet etc down to a science so it had no other option to work. I can get size and thickness pretty decent I just want to get past this age barrier that may hinder me a slight bit at age 32. Would I have to worry about any post cycle recovery regiment after injecting no more then 1.4 ml of 100 mg propionate just one single time . And I'm not trying to be some fool about this and throw my system into panic mode. That's why I'm trying to get all the feedback I can and consider various feed backs PS: I read that thread thanks brother. And I apologize for maybe being a little gunghoe on sampling the product I will respect all of this. Thanks again
    Are you proposing doing a single injection of test prop at 140mg? Dude you have a lot of research to do. There are a lot of stickies on this site you can read regarding first cycles which will answer a lot of the questions you may have. But just to make this a bit easier for you, if you're going to risk shutting down your natural testosterone production, why would you do it for a single shot? If you are looking to run a cycle, do it right. 4-500mg of test e/c for 12 weeks... Like kelkel said above You need to read the Successful First Cycle sticky thread at the top of this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marsoc View Post
    Yeah I'd hate to mess anything up I have going naturally. Thanks, I was hitting the gym and rucking with like 100lbs in my rucksack in the woods hard going for efficiency like it was my job training for the Army special forces program sfas Marsoc/recon or army green beret. I was around 220 natural and had my diet etc down to a science so it had no other option to work. I can get size and thickness pretty decent I just want to get past this age barrier that may hinder me a slight bit at age 32. Would I have to worry about any post cycle recovery regiment after injecting no more then 1.4 ml of 100 mg propionate just one single time . And I'm not trying to be some fool about this and throw my system into panic mode. That's why I'm trying to get all the feedback I can and consider various feed backs PS: I read that thread thanks brother. And I apologize for maybe being a little gunghoe on sampling the product I will respect all of this. Thanks again
    No need for PCT or recovery regimen after 1 shot.

    Get some zinc and vit d.
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    Nice... Man I thought i got myself in deep haha. Yes sir. Thank you

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    Just tried it out I guess. Yeah it was stupid but I wanted to see if there was any noticble physical stimulations involved etc. call me curious I guess. I did one shot and did squats and lunges with a log from an oak tree I cut down the next day lol and sprinted up like a 65% grade set of 50 steps a few times skipping every 2-3 steps for a full range of motion (no gym pass yet ) It was a risky trial yes but it's done already so that's why im gaining Intel and I'm going no further till I can prep for a full on regiment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marsoc View Post
    Just tried it out I guess. Yeah it was stupid but I wanted to see if there was any noticble physical stimulations involved etc. call me curious I guess. I did one shot and did squats and lunges with a log from an oak tree I cut down the next day lol and sprinted up like a 65% grade set of 50 steps a few times skipping every 2-3 steps for a full range of motion (no gym pass yet ) It was a risky trial yes but it's done already so that's why im gaining Intel and I'm going no further till I can prep for a full on regiment
    Noticible physical stimulations....

    I heard that crack and heroin can do that for you. Yes Mr. Curious, play with your health and you will end up like the cat. Killed by curiosity as you can guess.

    Rather take an academic approach and try to understand the chemical and biological effects that take place on a physiological level. I'm not saying you need a PHD, Im saying that you should APPLY YOUR MIND for the best results.

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    Listen dude. I don't wanna call names being so new here but I got my good feedback and information I needed. I'm good Without the smart ass comments. i understand but it was a test run, I can go full cycle right now if I wanted to just thought I may try and then I had some things come up that prevented me from getting on a gym regime so I stopped after that one dose. I wanted actual Intel which I got by these Fellas. Thanks for your thoughts though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marsoc
    Listen dude. I don't wanna call names being so new here but I got my good feedback and information I needed. I'm good Without the smart ass comments. i understand but it was a test run, I can go full cycle right now if I wanted to just thought I may try and then I had some things come up that prevented me from getting on a gym regime so I stopped after that one dose. I wanted actual Intel which I got by these Fellas. Thanks for your thoughts though
    With all due respect, you received excellent advice from the vets and decided not to follow it. That is your option, but the vets may not be willing to further assist.
    Your unfamiliarity with what you are doing, is just dangerous. I highly recommend that you become much more knowledgeable of everything that occurs prior to expirementing. I always hear people saying I had no sides. IMPOSSIBLE. Take bloodwork and then tell me there are no sides.
    I am not saying this to be an asshole. I am saying this to help you. I know that you probably do not want to hear this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    With all due respect, you received excellent advice from the vets and decided not to follow it. That is your option, but the vets may not be willing to further assist.
    Your unfamiliarity with what you are doing, is just dangerous. I highly recommend that you become much more knowledgeable of everything that occurs prior to expirementing. I always hear people saying I had no sides. IMPOSSIBLE. Take bloodwork and then tell me there are no sides.
    I am not saying this to be an asshole. I am saying this to help you. I know that you probably do not want to hear this.
    Yeah which is what I just said. I said I received great advice and there was nothing to follow since it was about me starting a cycle then having to top all a sudden after one dose. They told me not to just try stuff out lol so I'm following that I guess you can say beyond that advice taken And retained sir. Unsure what you feel your telling me beyond what I was told. I told the guy who said crack and heroine give you physical stim. To spare me the smart ass remarks. Thanks again though PS: and I appreciate any and all feedback including yours. minus smart ass stuff
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