1st cycle prep, materials for the job

[Marsoc]

Wondering what is a good option to go with along with a 250 propionate blend by maha pharma. It's just what I can get now and I want to keep it strictly Testosterone . Is there anyway I can incorporate a test suspension (no ester) along with that weekly 250 dose. I like the fact that you can take the test suspension pre workout for that day and get the test going asap . Maybe like 50mg suspension pre workout leg day, then 25mg for the other 4 days for a total of 150mg along with the 250 propionate blend start of the week for a total of 400.. I'm pretty much wondering what the minimum dose is weekly for noticble performance gains. And what all do I need to get for this test cycle before I start, including the optimal test package I can create along with AI or SERMs ...? Thanks. By the way I'm 32 years old, 5'11" - 6' around 190lbs. I was like 215 natural when I was taking whey sups, bcaa's, and good whole foods and training for a special forces program SFAS, Recon/Marsoc or Army green beret. I can get thick and big fairly decent and just wanted to keep the fat down, gain strength and get my endurance up, overall efficiency I guess for my training . Thanks and sorry for the long post

[Marsoc]

Never mind. I thought about spearing myself on a daily basis would suck and make me possibly very sore. I think I'll just stick with the 250 propionate blend 1-2Xs per week. Thanks for the non feedback lol. Jk thanks though I hate having all these questions I should figure on my own but being new to this I love to get multiple perspectives and actual life eperience Etc.

[Cuz]

Way to compicated for me to through no offense
12 week test e 250x2 week..run ai...run pct 2 weeks after last shot..done

[Livinlean]

Prop really needs to be run everyday or every other day. If you are running it 1-2 xs per week that is going to result in unstable blood levels which in turn with result in unsteady gains. You want your blood levels to be as consistent as possible since this will yield the biggest gain and least amount of side effects.

[Tearracodo]

Prop really needs to be run everyday or every other day. If you are running it 1-2 xs per week that is going to result in unstable blood levels which in turn with result in unsteady gains. You want your blood levels to be as consistent as possible since this will yield the biggest gain and least amount of side effects.

As a another question is the Test E front load worth it? Assuming that test has a half life of 7 days. 1g at the first week, followed by 500mg per week should be enough to keep the 'peak' test e blood plasma level at 1g. That would other wise take 4 weeks to reach using 500mg per week? OFC not for a first cycle?

[Marsoc]

Prop really needs to be run everyday or every other day. If you are running it 1-2 xs per week that is going to result in unstable blood levels which in turn with result in unsteady gains. You want your blood levels to be as consistent as possible since this will yield the biggest gain and least amount of side effects.

So this is towards the proposed 250 blend correct. Can I achieve good gains In performance, mass/strength etc. from a 250propionate blend dose per week? Or if I need the 500mg each week due to the low percentage of actual test in the ester fused testosterone 250 blend should I take the full 500mg dose start of each weeK + an AI ? i think the test suspension is out of the question due to availability/quality etc. so I'm thinking about the blend only now since thats what I can get fair price now

[Cuz]

Prop is dosed at usually 100mg not 250

[Marsoc]

Prop is dosed at usually 100mg not 250

I have a vial of propionate by Generic Labs 100mg, but I also have Maha 250 propionate blend which is what I'm proposing to use.

[Cuz]

Well that would hurt like a bitch

[Marsoc]

Well that would hurt like a bitch

Dude believe it or not I was going to start a cycle and had to stop but I dosed once with 1ml propionate test and left no red area or soreness really. From what I heard propionate hurts

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Please tell me what you mean by a prop 250mg/ml blend.
Usually a blend is two or more esters combined.
Usually prop comes in 100mg/ml.

What exactly does it say on your vial?

[Marsoc]

Please tell me what you mean by a prop 250mg/ml blend.
Usually a blend is two or more esters combined.
Usually prop comes in 100mg/ml.

What exactly does it say on your vial?

It's Maha pharma Testosterone mix 250.
30mg propionate Ph.Eur, 60mg Test isocaproate B.P, 60mg Test Phenylpropionate B.P, 100mg Test Decanoate B.P, Oil base 250mg/ml.

Beyond that I have 100 mg testosterone propionate that's In a brown vial by Generic LAbs .

[Marsoc]

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[Cuz]

Oh..its sustanon

[Marsoc]

Oh..its sustanon

Yeah I guess. I figured that was a certain brand name so I just say 250 blend

[Mr.BB]

Just follow this for your first cycle: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

[Marsoc]

Just follow this for your first cycle: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

I read that before. I guess I missed the part on the test cycle example. So I'm figuring I'll follow that every 3.5 days but use the sustanon 250.

[Marsoc]

Forget about this. If anyone can reply to the new thread I posted. "Polish monster 1st cycle materials". Thank guys and sorry for all the annoying questions but that's why I'm here and I've been researching tons of material on here and I still have questions as to specifics. Thanks