Start Cycling

**arnold47** · 08-22-2016, 05:01 PM

Hello, i'm Arnold and i want to start cycling , im new in "steroids " so i want to know what i should use for my first cycle, someone said to try 12 weeks test e monday 1ml/250mg and thursday after pause 4 weeks post cycle terapy to re-start my own secretion of test and 16 weeks pause after that but also he said i'm not gonna experience big results but everyone starts from somewhere, so what do you think about this?

i almost forgot to let my details here , hehe

186 cm a fuarking oak
73 kg not massive , i can say slim but ripped as fuark cuz my metabolism is like an unstopabble fire

the thing is i don't want to take steroids for fun , i want to do performance , i have only plan A there's no plan B , one way so please help me.

here some pics...

**Cuz** · 08-22-2016, 05:09 PM

Definately good base to build on..welcome to the forum. How old are you and whats your diet/training look like?

**Mr.BB** · 08-22-2016, 05:34 PM

At 20 years old you are too young to use steroids .

It will be a lot safer in 5 years.

Meanwhile you can hit the diet section and grow like mad on your high natural test and GH.

**songdog** · 08-22-2016, 06:47 PM

Use the next 4 yrs too but some meat on them bones.You got a good start dont mess up your body by cycling too soon.

**arnold47** · 08-22-2016, 07:13 PM

Oh c'mon bruhs after 5-4 years i'll be old, i was sure y'all gonna say after 5-4 years damn, if i do by my head i'll probably no wait for sure i'm gonna die...

**songdog** · 08-22-2016, 08:56 PM

Well do wat you gotta do Bro.We get kids like you here everyday and we just give them the best and safest advice we can.Hell I remember one kid your age thought Var was mild so against our advice he ran it.He ended up with Ed problems.And Cialis dont work for no libido.So you just go ahead and be hard headed.Beacuse that maybe the only thing hard on you when you are done.But it may take up tp 10yrs to happen.

**arnold47** · 08-23-2016, 07:37 AM

...But this site actually taught a lot of youngsters for ex z./z.z and he was 17 lol...another thing is when in 60s 70s they took steroids ex arnold when he was 19-20 he worked for him with d-bol,deca ,primo and more others like franco , frank , lou... they didn't know bout all the side effects , thats right but they knew its risky, whats the risk if i'll start with test e and to do 2 cycles per year or to do multi-cycles like z./z.z and others they did,and why 24-25 yrs when marcus said in a thread that some of guys stop/slow down developing/secrete of own test and some stop when they are 25. i don't want to be rude , i just want to know how my body is gonna react if i'll do multi-cycles to keep growing faster, a very best friend of mine said if i'll take roids my own test after post cycle is gonna go down , is chance for my test to recover 60%(but never like initially was) or to never recover and the thing with penis erection, wtf i don't want to dope myself like phil shit or others monsters , my goal is to have a 60-70s physic not to be a mutant turtle with health condition critically shit/almost dying. I'm just hungry for knowledge.

**Cuz** · 08-23-2016, 08:09 AM

Young dumb and full of cum...good luck kid i hope you make it honestly i do.

**NACH3** · 08-23-2016, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by arnold47

...But this site actually taught a lot of youngsters for ex z./z.z and he was 17 lol...another thing is when in 60s 70s they took steroids ex arnold when he was 19-20 he worked for him with d-bol,deca ,primo and more others like franco , frank , lou... they didn't know bout all the side effects , thats right but they knew its risky, whats the risk if i'll start with test e and to do 2 cycles per year or to do multi-cycles like z./z.z and others they did,and why 24-25 yrs when marcus said in a thread that some of guys stop/slow down developing/secrete of own test and some stop when they are 25. i don't want to be rude , i just want to know how my body is gonna react if i'll do multi-cycles to keep growing faster, a very best friend of mine said if i'll take roids my own test after post cycle is gonna go down , is chance for my test to recover 60%(but never like initially was) or to never recover and the thing with penis erection, wtf i don't want to dope myself like phil shit or others monsters , my goal is to have a 60-70s physic not to be a mutant turtle with health condition critically shit/almost dying. I'm just hungry for knowledge.

You misread his post(Marcus') he says there's no exact age, however, goes into detail that an Endo has said to him, too, that 25 is the safest bet for letting your still developing brain and Endocrine system(which is part of your brain) completely develop b4 messing with your hormones

Ding try and justify what's been proven over time as the safest bet(can shit still happen - of course) b/c you want to cycle at a younger age... You won't find many people here to support your endeavor just yet... However, I wish you all the best

**arnold47** · 08-23-2016, 09:29 AM

Closed doors again...no problemo , i'll train natural and keep learning about roids , when i'll know everything important about steroids i'll make the step , it's gonna take long time to learn but idc, i want to decimate everyone on stage, thanks for advices and hate of "cuz" u mad bruh? this time i'll listen to you guys to do natural.

**Mr.BB** · 08-23-2016, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by arnold47

...But this site actually taught a lot of youngsters for ex z./z.z and he was 17 lol...another thing is when in 60s 70s they took steroids ex arnold when he was 19-20 he worked for him with d-bol,deca ,primo and more others like franco , frank , lou... they didn't know bout all the side effects , thats right but they knew its risky, whats the risk if i'll start with test e and to do 2 cycles per year or to do multi-cycles like z./z.z and others they did,and why 24-25 yrs when marcus said in a thread that some of guys stop/slow down developing/secrete of own test and some stop when they are 25. i don't want to be rude , i just want to know how my body is gonna react if i'll do multi-cycles to keep growing faster, a very best friend of mine said if i'll take roids my own test after post cycle is gonna go down , is chance for my test to recover 60%(but never like initially was) or to never recover and the thing with penis erection, wtf i don't want to dope myself like phil shit or others monsters , my goal is to have a 60-70s physic not to be a mutant turtle with health condition critically shit/almost dying. I'm just hungry for knowledge.

Heres some knowledge:

The young and Steroids

***Cycles going wrong for the young***

**songdog** · 08-23-2016, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by arnold47

...But this site actually taught a lot of youngsters for ex z./z.z and he was 17 lol...another thing is when in 60s 70s they took steroids ex arnold when he was 19-20 he worked for him with d-bol,deca ,primo and more others like franco , frank , lou... they didn't know bout all the side effects , thats right but they knew its risky, whats the risk if i'll start with test e and to do 2 cycles per year or to do multi-cycles like z./z.z and others they did,and why 24-25 yrs when marcus said in a thread that some of guys stop/slow down developing/secrete of own test and some stop when they are 25. i don't want to be rude , i just want to know how my body is gonna react if i'll do multi-cycles to keep growing faster, a very best friend of mine said if i'll take roids my own test after post cycle is gonna go down , is chance for my test to recover 60%(but never like initially was) or to never recover and the thing with penis erection, wtf i don't want to dope myself like phil shit or others monsters , my goal is to have a 60-70s physic not to be a mutant turtle with health condition critically shit/almost dying. I'm just hungry for knowledge.

Arnold also had a lot of problems.He had to spend a lot of money at the Doctors so he could have kids again.And then he got lucky.And there are plenty more who's stories you will never hear beacuse they are not famous.So walk thru that door! Read the young and steroids sticky that will help you.

**arnold47** · 08-24-2016, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by songdog

Arnold also had a lot of problems.He had to spend a lot of money at the Doctors so he could have kids again.And then he got lucky.And there are plenty more who's stories you will never hear beacuse they are not famous.So walk thru that door! Read the young and steroids sticky that will help you.

u mad ?

**Marsoc** · 08-24-2016, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by arnold47

u mad ?

I'm 32 and just considering this the first time in my life. I never considered it any younger. Even though I had no idea about the side effects and natural suppression etc. I figured you could use it like whey protein. Guess again lol. But yeah I wouldn't risk messing any decent natural production up at a young age. I hope my test levels aren't permanently effect by my first mild cycle. PS: lol dude they ain't mad I'm sure. They can care less it's your choice. I mean they can't control your actions but they will give best advice

**Paul Mr Universe** · 09-09-2016, 09:06 AM

Try a strait course 500 mg test weekly for the full 12 weeks. And keep protien high and complex carbs high maybe 6000 calls or above as you sound a a pure ectomorph type