fina ???

[HOLLYWOOD]

what kind of gains could i expect off a fina only cycle ? and what kind of sides can i expect ? and is fina really that bad for ance ? i experienced bad ance when i was younger but took accutane and it cleared up ! i took a durabolin cycle about 6 months ago and experienced no ance what so ever when i was on it but taking clomid it gave me a little but thats it ! i like fina because it gives NO water retention and thats what im looking for but dont realy want to experience alot of ance ! thanx bros

[daem]

what kind of gains could i expect off a fina only cycle ? and what kind of sides can i expect ? and is fina really that bad for ance ? i experienced bad ance when i was younger but took accutane and it cleared up ! i took a durabolin cycle about 6 months ago and experienced no ance what so ever when i was on it but taking clomid it gave me a little but thats it ! i like fina because it gives NO water retention and thats what im looking for but dont realy want to experience alot of ance ! thanx bros

it all depends bro. a friend of mine ran a fina only cycle and he liked it, although he complained about his unit not being functional. 4 weeks after he completed post he kept around 80% of his mass gains and around 90% of his strength gains according to him and what i saw in the gym.

run prop with it and you will have a great cycle. you could get away with 50mg/day of prop although i would match the tren as a rule of thumb.

the sides may include increased heart rate, increased blood pressure, night sweats, insomnia, and shortness of breath.

fina is great, although you need to know how to handle yourself during the difficult times that come with it occasionally.

[chris1tr69]

I have a few freinds that are currently on just fina, and there seeing great gains in strength and size, but the unit like daem is sorta out of order. IM on fina/prop right now and am on week 8 and ive gained 22-25 solid pounds and i still have 5 weeks left of fina and 1 of prop. I think you should get a hold of some prop

[chris1tr69]

Oh yea and all of em broke out on their backs and shoulders off of fina

[HOLLYWOOD]

would i get experience similar gains with low sides with an eq/winny stack and/or primo/winny stack ? im looking for NO WATER RETENTION by the way !

[J_Rod]

Okay the thing to know about tren aka fina is this: you dont get great gains in size cause you are burning almost as much fat as you are gaining muscle. fina is a great fat burner and it puts on only quality muscle no fat and no water. I wont increase your appetite so you'll need to keep track of that your self. I started my tren cycle 3 months ago I have good friends who make it with me. I took 60 ml's over the 3 month period spot shooting every day i worked out. I was 210 when i started and I am 220 now and stronger than ever. I look better than ever too. I have viens running all through my arms now and my shoulders look insane. Drink at least 1.5 gallons of h20 a day. Think very seriously about shooting t100 pro with it you will shit when you see your self two weeks from now if you take these two together. good luck brotha

[chris1tr69]

J rod im on prop 75mg eod 1-8week, Fina 100mg EOD 3-13 week. Im on my last week and im deciding wether or not it would be benefical to take winny for my last 5 weeks?

[chris1tr69]

I doubt it, fina/prop will bulk u up more. I held no water what so ever, they both got me hard as a rock. Im pretty sure prop hold less water then any of the other test's.

[HOLLYWOOD]

but see looking at the chart rating all different types of gear all the different tests. arent taht great for keeping size so im not really looking to take a test because of that reason i really want to keep most my gains, and stay hard and ripped with no bloating!

[wood]

If its your first time for fina I would get some Prop and run it at 50mg ed. I ran out of prop and was just running fina and had low libido. But still I had great strength gains.

[HOLLYWOOD]

what kind of sides did you get ? and how bad ?

[G Child]

[motoxxxguy]

I think I got every side effect out there from my fina/prop cycle! I had severe night sweats, insomnia, increased BP, shortness of breath, and of course gnarly strength and some wicked veins in my arms! Never got any acne, though. I would run the prop with your fina, the dosage should depend on your exerience/preference. I'm now a week into my clomid and I'm starting to break out on my shoulders and chest a little, and my dick's not working, but damn if it wasn't worth it. As harsh as it was on me, I can't wait for the next cycle!

-moto

[HOLLYWOOD]

the fina that im getting from my source actually has some prop in it to counter-act fina dick so i think ill be ok with that, and ive noticed taht too with the acne part of steriods , it seems that when i put foreign test in my body i dont seem to react as bad when i take the post cycle stuff like clomid or whatever, my natural test seems to give me the ance ! is taht what you're experiencing? so far i think fina is what im going to go with... keeps you hard, ripped and no bloating but still am worried about acne ! anyone else have an opinion on this ?

[chris1tr69]

i would still go with fina/prop, fina side effects for me were really just breaking out shoulders back, not bad though

[HOLLYWOOD]

chris1tr69, are you prone to ance at all tho ?

[chris1tr69]

na not at all, i ahve like 8 or more freinds on it and they got it way worse

[PumP~N~Swole]

I was wondering about something. I'm still waiting to heal up before I even do my first cycle and gawd it seems like forever but I'm a strong boi I can wait it out. Anywho My 2nd cycle i was going to make some tren at 50mg and prop 50mg ed, and I hear you guys saying your dick is gone. What about if you take viagra would this kick your dick into high gear or would it not work even with viagra. Also this goes for the deca /test I'm soon to take if I get deca dick which I hope the test will stop, will viagra help?

thanx bros
~PNS~

[Billy_Bathgate]

Fina only -

Depression, lethargy, bad mood, some fat loss, no sex drive

Fina/Prop - increased mass, strength, fat loss, increased sex drive


Add the test in. I learned that the hard way once a few years ago.

[HOLLYWOOD]

ya ok sounds good the fina that im getting is half fina and half prop so ill think ill be ok !! will the sides be less because of this half and half mix ?

[chris1tr69]

i have a freind thats on fina alone and he has a lil proplem with that, my other friend is on decca and fina and hes is completely gone. Im currently on prop/fina, and ive had great results with no problem with sex drive, due to the prop, def stick wit fina/prop

[HOLLYWOOD]

good stuff man thanks for the help chris1tr69, thanx guys for clearin this guessing game up for me! im probably gonna go with the fina and prop , starting this week ill let you guys know how it goes too...hopefully i dont get horrible acne from it ! thanx again !

[swole256]

where is everyone getting this fina at i cant find none nowhere but i also live in kentucky if someone can help pm me or send to my email @ [email protected] thanks swole

[Billy_Bathgate]

swole...you probally shouldnt post that, and there is a good chance its against the rules

[HOLLYWOOD]

how can you not find any fina's the cheapest and most frequently used ! ask around at your gym if you havent already im sure you'll find some !

[HOLLYWOOD]

o and one last question what kind of dose should i be taking keeping in mind the sides ??? im 170 6' and 21 ...

[chris1tr69]

crosby...........alot...........
400 mg a week of prop/fina

[Slypknot]

I'm currently running 75mg Fina/ED combined with 100mg Prop EOD... is there a major diff between running the prop @50mg ED versus 100mg EOD? I thought Prop's half life would allow for pretty stable blood levels with EOD injects... plus it saves on seriously painful spot injects in delts and calves (since I can keep the prop in my quads and glutes with EOD injects).

So far I haven't noticed a whole lot with this cycle other than the side effects (acne, night sweats, insomnia and INSANE sex drive)...I'm a little more vascular in the arms/shoulders but don't see a HUGE strength increase yet. I'm mid 4th week of an 8week cycle...hopin the next 4 weeks will really lean me out!

[HOLLYWOOD]

hey slypknot, how bad is your acne ? and dont you think that if i take fina at a high dose the sides will kick in even worse, ive heard too that fina doesnt have to be taken in large amounts to obtain good gains ...?!?! and has anyone experienced any water retention at all esspecially in the face off this cycle ? i mean any what so ever ?

[Slypknot]

Acne is not as bad as I expected... nothing really breaking out in white heads, just bumps on my chest that look like they could develop into zits.

I've gained zero water off this cycle...and from all the research I found 75mg ED was an ideal amount for Fina (even for a first cycle) - so I don't suspect I'm over doing it.

[HOLLYWOOD]

fuck man thats alota pricks ! i fuckin hate shootin up !

[allabs5150]

Fina only -

Depression, lethargy, bad mood, some fat loss, no sex drive

Fina/Prop - increased mass, strength, fat loss, increased sex drive


Add the test in. I learned that the hard way once a few years ago.

Billy what do you mean when you say "add the test in I leaned that the hard way"
Is that good or bad?? I like to run a 14 week cycle and was thinking 50 fina 50 prop ed could i toss in 500 mg of test a week too??

[Slypknot]

Prop is test bro.... without the test you miss out on all the beauty it brings! Test = high sex drive, good mass gains, sense of well being, etc. Without it you will get depression, lethargy, no sex drive and just crappy all around. I'd recommend the standard dose of
Fina@75mg ED
Prop@100mg EOD (or 50mg ED)

Should do ya just fine....

[moose230]

Me and a buddy of mine are starting a new cycle, he is taking Fina, test 250, and Deca 300....I on the other hand carry more bodyfat and was wondering if I was to take Fina, test 250 and Equipoise if it would help me loose some of the bodyfat, or just not hold back any water....or would it just be better to take the Deca 300?

[HOLLYWOOD]

no man eq for sure !

[HOLLYWOOD]

prop wont cause any bloating even tho its a test ???

[allabs5150]

Prop is test bro.... without the test you miss out on all the beauty it brings! Test = high sex drive, good mass gains, sense of well being, etc. Without it you will get depression, lethargy, no sex drive and just crappy all around. I'd recommend the standard dose of
Fina@75mg ED
Prop@100mg EOD (or 50mg ED)

Should do ya just fine....

Ya Bro after submitting that message I started thinking about it, and rememberd Prop is another type of Test...DUHH but now my question is why cant i run cyp or eth, not that i would just wondering, also how would EQ work into a fina cycle?

[Slypknot]

You can really run any form of test you'd like. I believe the preference of prop is due to it's fast acting qualities and that it causes very little water retention. An overall excellent choice for someone running a Fina cutting cycle. Deca on the other hand, IMHO, would not be a good choice due to the amount of water retained and massive growth. I think cutting cycles are for holding onto muscle mass while dropping fat, versus actually gaining mass....

[moose230]

I was planning on 150mg of Fina EOD, 250mg of Test 250 en every 5 days, and 300 mg of deca Every 3 days...But i was thinkin if i used equipoise it will help me out a little bit because of it not holding back water....I would use the eq 200mg every other day....thats a lot of shots though

[chris1tr69]

u guys keep on sayinbg prop and fina is a cutting cycle, but i took it as a bulk and it works great for mass!!!!!!!!