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09-11-2016, 08:32 AM #1New Member
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How often have you done Tren
I'd like to hear from folks that have "actually" done Tren and not from those that "I think" "I've read" or "I've heard" but I want FACTS.
A little background on my reasons for this question. I'm 55 with perfect blood work including a cholesterol of 98 , blood pressure of 126/70 but my body fat was 25%. Everyone told me NOT to do Tren it would harm me. Well, I spoke to my Dr ( who is really cool) and did a cycle with Tren and Test cyp anyways for 10 weeks. Tapered from 1/2 cc Tren and 1 cc Cyp to 1 1/2 cc of each. Did not taper down since I'm on HRT taking 1 1/2 cc test every 7 days anyways.
My results .... OMG body fat now 15% , muscle mass through the roof and blood work and blood pressure still perfect. No side effects at all.
So, what's so terrible about Tren and why do folks say you can only do it twice a year or every six months,
BTW I'm Vegan 99% of the time. The other 1% is when I'm craving a good New York slice of pizza lol
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09-11-2016, 08:49 AM #2
For you probably is not so terrible because you're on HRT, but for others tren and deca (myself included) are the AAS most HPTA suppressive ever (I mean that natural Test values go under the shoes for a long time, and it becomes difficult to recover)
but you can not be aware of this because your Test values are regularly supported by HRT
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09-11-2016, 08:54 AM #3
This^^^. And it will mess with your brain if you are not balanced. Other things like extra sweat, hunger issues, etc are easier to control, but if you have anxiety off tren just a small dose can lead to full panic attacks.
Im on tren right now and the only side is a stupid ab muscle nerve twitch (or whatever you call it).
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09-11-2016, 09:41 AM #4New Member
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Thanks guys but "how often" can I cycle Tren is my question? Or can I do a small dosage all the time with my HRT? I'm pretty laid back so no anxiety here, did have a few sweats but they were random, may be in the middle of the day and I could feel the, coming on before they occurred. Actually carried extra underwear and shorts /shirt with me lol
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09-11-2016, 09:51 AM #5
Dont know why this fascination for tren , you could probably just have increased your testosterone to cycle values and have the same results.
For me after the normal 8-10 weeks of usage sides start to become unbearable. You should stay away at least the same time on.
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09-11-2016, 10:47 AM #6New Member
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Mr. BB
Upping the test will only add more water weight which I don't want not to mention the added estrogen.
Fascination with Tren , hmmm increase strength , increase "lean" muscle mass I typically don't lose much of, don't have to count calories, hardness and pump of muscles.
Amy suggestions on a different product?
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09-11-2016, 11:35 AM #7
Flex, what makes you think you will gain water weight from upping your test? If you keep your estro in check that should not be an issue at all.
Tren is a harsh compound and thats the reason many don't recommend it. Upping your test is much safer long term for your body. Strength, muscle mass, hardness and pump can be achieved for any cycle, even an oral only cycle so I wouldn't just associate those with tren.
I would recommend counting calories at some point here to at least get an idea of what you're eating. All too often we eat way more or way less than what we think but weighing food out can give us a reality check.
To answer your question, if your BW values all come back in order you can run tren as much as you'd like using a blast/cruise method since you are on TRT.
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09-11-2016, 11:49 AM #8New Member
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Thanks BB, I hate to use the word assume lol but I always read for example test adds water weight whereas done thing like EQ does not.
Doesn't Test Cyp do the same thing EQ does or s this a separate post?
BTW, thanks your knowledge
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09-11-2016, 01:07 PM #9
Hello Flex! I understand exactly where you are coming from regarding Tren . And it is one hell of a steroid ! It does it all, builds muscle which in turn helps burn fat. Strengthens muscle, ads vascularity. I had just turned 49 the first time I ever ran it, and I got vascular as hell and more lean than I had ever been in my life. And strength returned from my best younger days. It is truly a superior steroid. It sounds like you had a great first cycle on Tren and that's great. But, if you run Tren too long or too often, YOU WILL HAVE SIDES! Tren will bite you in your muscular arse faster than you can scream "one more" at the end of your best set! Just a few examples: weeping tits from elevated prolactin, cold shivers, hot flashes, soaking the bed in sweat, soaking your clothes in sweat, no libido, crazy high libido, wet dreams, nightmares, no appetite, extreme weak feeling hunger spell, feeling like a god in the morning and shit in the evening, 50% lung capacity, nervous shakes, guaranteed natural test suppression. Seems like I'm forgetting a few. But I've got to get my arse in here and take my Tren/Test injection so I can go to gym and get my swole on!
Laying all jokes aside, these are sides that I have experienced (except the leaky tits, but it happens) trying to run Tren either too long or too often. Good luck cycling bro. Congratulations again on your body recomposition. Be well.
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09-11-2016, 02:18 PM #10Banned
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Originally Posted by Flex69
Unless you tell us the concentration of the gear then we have no idea how many mgs of tren and test you are running.
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09-11-2016, 05:31 PM #11
Ive done tren one time. Sides are ruff but its amazing like no other. Just be very careful with i recommend the short ester
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09-11-2016, 07:02 PM #12
Exactly what I was thinking. Regarding your test dose you stated you're doing 1.5 cc's per week. Assuming it's normally 200 mgs per ml that's 300 mgs per week which is not TRT unless your a hyper-excreter. It's more or less a small cycle. Straighten us out on the actual mg's your doing please.
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09-12-2016, 08:56 AM #13New Member
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sorry you all, its all 200 mgs per ml and my HRT normally runs high. I do 1 1/2 cc every 7 days (-:
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09-12-2016, 09:02 AM #14Banned
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My last cycle was Test 1.5 grams per week, Tren E 1.2 grams per wk
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09-12-2016, 01:48 PM #15
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09-12-2016, 01:58 PM #16
I dont get much sides but they are still not worth it to me. lifes too short to feel moody, sleepy , sweaty or not be able to sleep well.
Tren is harsh on the body. no its not like a toxic oral but in my opinion its one of the most toxic inject there is thats not 17aa altered (like most orals)
after a couple more runs of it you may feel the same way.
I have used it a few times. i pref maste and teste combo or primo and low dose test (if good quality )
maste is great for bulking or cutting, dont buy into all the "mast is only for cutting"BS. ive used ot for both and its great. on cutting i go higher mast lower test, bulking i go higher test slightly lower mast.
btw im veggie for 11 years now and vegan for about 3. the odd time i might eat something that has a milk product in it but i avoid it in 99% of the time as well.
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09-12-2016, 02:03 PM #17
yeah agree... 400 mg tren ew should be more than enough. that much is just abuse IMO
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