How would you run this?

**thegodfather** · 09-29-2016, 09:17 PM

Ok, so options are extremely limited, and if the following is available, give me an idea of how to build a proper cycle out of this.

25 Amps Sust250 (30/60/60/100)
Watson Test Cyp 200 x10ml
Anavar 10mg x 100

Chime in with your opinions....

**Back In Black** · 09-30-2016, 12:54 AM

How much cyp?

Is your var pharma or UGL?

**DocToxin8** · 09-30-2016, 01:01 AM

I'd start with the sust, since it contains both the longest ester and the shortest,
compared to cyp.

How long a cycle do you want?
What's your goals with it?

The anavar could be used in 3 ways IMO,
1) as a jumping start: in the start
2) as a solidifier in the end, beginning on the last shot of cyp, or earlier depending on the dose or if you can get more than 100 tabs.
3) providing synergy with the test trough the cycle,
This would be the best anabolic option for me,
But probably the worst choice for you.

When u don't specify the amount of cyp you have I assume you got unlimited supply?

**thegodfather** · 09-30-2016, 02:07 AM

The Var is UGL, its Keifei (not to be confused with Kefei).... 10ml of the Cyp.... I was thinking about the following:

.8mL of Sust (about 205mg) 3x weekly 1-10
50mg of Anavar for 20 days at the end of cycle

No idea what to do with this Watson Test Cyp....

Im bulking, and I respond really well to just about anything...Dont compete, I dont care for it. I am limited to the above mentioned stuff...

**DocToxin8** · 09-30-2016, 03:00 AM

That's ok, but think about replacing sust with cyp week 8-10.
(Understand it's a hassle to open a new vial just for that though,
depends on how afraid you are of the decanoate ester lingering in your system during PCT. Don't think it will matter that much.)

When you say 50mg var last 20 days, do you mean after week 10?

AI, SERMs, hCG included?

**thegodfather** · 09-30-2016, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by DocToxin8

That's ok, but think about replacing sust with cyp week 8-10.
(Understand it's a hassle to open a new vial just for that though,
depends on how afraid you are of the decanoate ester lingering in your system during PCT. Don't think it will matter that much.)

When you say 50mg var last 20 days, do you mean after week 10?

AI, SERMs, hCG included?

Well, Im open to using the var however...In all the years Ive never run it before or really looked into it much, so Im new to that. And yes all AIs,SERMS,HCG on hand and its from the pharmacy... Not overly concerned about the long ester, I think id rather save the 10ml of Cyp for when I can get some more...

**DocToxin8** · 09-30-2016, 08:33 AM

Ok, then I'd go with the sust dosing you've set up,
many roid calculators put the half life of decanoate at 15 days.
Ester half life don't follow such easy kinetics as it may seem,
and actual half life will differ with how much oil is in injected,
Where you inject; glutes have faster absorption than delts f.ex.
Changes in blood supply to the injected muscle; if you train your quads you'll absorb more steroid from them, at least during training.

Still, with the decanoate ester it will take some time for it to clear you system.
Starting on the last day of sust use with var for 20 days means you've probably gone through at least 2, maybe 3 half lives.
(But even though the half life is set at 15 days,
I'd think the actual half life would be shorter when there's very high dosages in your system, and 15 days with conventional TRT dosages)
However, a compound isn't out of your system before it's gone 5 half lives according to standard pharmacokinetic thinking.

So when should you start the var?
I'd think you should at least wait 1 week after last sust shot,
then so 20 days of var@50mg,
Then do PCT.

Anyone with more real world experienced with PCT after sustanon should chime in here.

**ScotchGuard02** · 09-30-2016, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by thegodfather

Ok, so options are extremely limited, and if the following is available, give me an idea of how to build a proper cycle out of this.

25 Amps Sust250 (30/60/60/100)
Watson Test Cyp 200 x10ml
Anavar 10mg x 100

Chime in with your opinions....

I would mix the Test Cyp (2000mg @ 10ml) and th 25 amps of Sus250 (6250mg @ 25ml) in a large sterile vial. The result would be Test with the concentration of 235mg/ml. If you pin 1.5ml x 2 times per week, you'll be taking 678mg of Test per week for 12 weeks (well, almost 12 weeks). You don't have enough Anavar to run a full cycle. At 60mg/ed for 28 days (4 weeks) you will need 10mg x 168 pills to run a full cycle. Save your Anavar and get more to run a cycle in the future.