Proviron & Test Combo Question

**XFit4Real** · 10-07-2016, 02:16 AM

Hey Guys

So little background on my current cycle
On week 2 of

500mg Test E
300mg Masteron
NOLVA 10mg ED for security
ADEX 0.25 EOD

And PROVIRON 50mg daily and the question to this post

So
My Question:
If we understand that proviron is freeing up natural test in the body by lowering SHBG and binding to the muscles is this not haltering the effect of the other TEST?
Im not at 5-10% body fat and not prepping for a show so do you think the proviron is actually more a waste on this cycle even if i increase it to like 75mg as i wont be able to see the effect as i need to get lower BF ?
Also it could be drying my joints out for no reason right now

What to do ?

**Mr.BB** · 10-07-2016, 03:51 AM

Originally Posted by XFit4Real

If we understand that proviron is freeing up natural test in the body by lowering SHBG and binding to the muscles is this not haltering the effect of the other TEST?

Really dont understand. If you have exogenous TEST in your body you wont have any natural testosterone .

Yes, proviron will preferably bind to globulin lowering SHBG. On cycle is pretty useless for this purpose as you have so many free testosterone available its completely pointless to think about the 0,1% it can free.

Proviron will do nothing to your muscles, muscles have no receptors for it. The effects can be noticed in sex organs, skin and scalp.

Don't understand what you mean about drying joints...

**DocToxin8** · 10-07-2016, 04:03 AM

I also think it's a waste to combine proviron and masteron .
Provirons hardening and estrogen antagonistic effects are similar to masterons, IMO.
So, save the proviron for when you don't have masteron would be my choice.
If cash and organ tax is no issue then running both might ofcourse increase the effects a little.
And lowering SHBG, all AAS do that, and IMO it's nothing to strive for.

**DocToxin8** · 10-07-2016, 04:05 AM

Oh, and like BB said, you have no "natural" test in your body now.
(There's no difference between exogenous test and your natural test tough)
But you body has completely stopped producing test at this point.
(Or 99%, your adrenals will still produce a little)

**DocToxin8** · 10-07-2016, 04:08 AM

And to make BBs point about proviron in the muscle explained a little deeper;
Proviron (mesterolone) is broken down in muscle tissue to fast to have any real effect there. Same problem as with DHT.

It does however create a dry/hard look when used in high amounts, but no real muscle building occurs.