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    Afraid to do intense cardio on tren?

    Hey this tren is really kicked in.. ive got like just under 100 beats per minute resting heart rate right now. I want to trim up a bit but im afraid of pushing too hard on cardio. Im 30 btw.

    Should i keep to just jogging or am i good to push it a bit?

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    This is your first real cycle and you've been on tren for 11 weeks:/

    Having just under 100 bpm resting heart rate isn't that big of a deal if only for a short period of time.

    Everyone's hr elevates during stressful times.

    An elevated hr is only problematic if it stays high for any length of time or when it's a symptom of a much larger problem.

    It would be a good idea to check your blood pressure a few times over the course of a day.

    Have you had your blood counts tested recently?

    When is the last time you've donated blood?

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    I don't believe your 29 years of age.

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    I've never really had a problem with tren elevating my HR but I have had tren giving me problems with recovery when doing HIIT. It seems as though my rest periods needs to be longer and I have a harder time keeping my HR elevated during HIIT.

    IMO I would push yourself. It much more effective at burning unwanted body fat...if thats your goal. BTW....11wks tren can be very stressful on your body. My want to cycle off for awhile see how your cardiovascular system reacts and then maybe cycle back on.

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    Tren does elevate my heart rate when doing cardio. 50 YO and when on tren I run 4 miles a day and heart beat increases about 15 bpm. I obviously monitor my heart rate while i am running. No issues with the elevated heart rate.
    I only use tren for cutting so I also have other AAS involved but my cycle with tren my heart rate increases while under stress (cardio).
    BP also increases but that happens during all cycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    This is your first real cycle and you've been on tren for 11 weeks:/

    Having just under 100 bpm resting heart rate isn't that big of a deal if only for a short period of time.

    Everyone's hr elevates during stressful times.

    An elevated hr is only problematic if it stays high for any length of time or when it's a symptom of a much larger problem.

    It would be a good idea to check your blood pressure a few times over the course of a day.

    Have you had your blood counts tested recently?

    When is the last time you've donated blood?
    Im glad your paying attention.. im stopping next week. I know i didnt follow the script to a tee and maybe ive made some mistakes but at the end of the day i dont fully take anyones word for anything. I use it as a guideline and i listen to my body from there.. 2 examples:

    1. When i was starting out in lifting and wanted to bulk. I looked up and also asked people based on my height and weight about my macros are how much to eat. I followed the consensus and gained 20 pounds my first 4 weeks of mostly fat. Most people would be suprised at how i can bulk at a caloric level that they would probably lose weight at. Likewise despite all the above i also can lose weight crazy fast as well. This is how my body works. I respond to food or a lack there of STRONGLY. Much more so than the average person.

    2. Harsh tren sides. I got some acne on my jaw and some on my chest. Light acne. I havent had acne since i was 20. Those are my sides.. oh yeah and muscle growth. Those are the only 2 effects i noticed of tren. By reading what people say about the harsh sides i would of said you guys were all hysterical but i realize your body is not like mine therefore im not going to assume anything is fact for my body that is written on the internet.. i use it as a guideline or starting point.

    I understand in taking a risk and could make a mistake. I listened to my body.. felt pretty damn healhy aside from my resting heart rate and blood pressure and decided to push it for 12 weeks. I think most of you whether you admit it or not are in the same boat with me in doing things like this. Im experimenting with my body and the consequences im fully prepared to accept as we all do here. I feel very confident i will be completely fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    This is your first real cycle and you've been on tren for 11 weeks:/

    Having just under 100 bpm resting heart rate isn't that big of a deal if only for a short period of time.

    Everyone's hr elevates during stressful times.

    An elevated hr is only problematic if it stays high for any length of time or when it's a symptom of a much larger problem.

    It would be a good idea to check your blood pressure a few times over the course of a day.

    Have you had your blood counts tested recently?

    When is the last time you've donated blood?
    I have never donated blood. My resting heart rate and blood pressure are both high. But not extremely. 96 resting heart rate.. just checked it while ive been laying in bed here.. my blood pressure was also elevated but not to an extreme sense. I forget what the number was. I think it was like 140 over something i forget the other number.

    Maybe ill just cut the tren out.. screw it.. it was a good cycle and the more i think of it there will be others. It is scary for me doing cardio when my rest heart rate is 96 and im used to high 50s. I think for that reason alone ill start pct.. damn i like being "on" -_-

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMA_Influenced View Post
    I understand in taking a risk and could make a mistake. I listened to my body.. felt pretty damn healhy aside from my resting heart rate and blood pressure and decided to push it for 12 weeks. I think most of you whether you admit it or not are in the same boat with me in doing things like this. Im experimenting with my body and the consequences im fully prepared to accept as we all do here. I feel very confident i will be completely fine.
    It's unfortunate that members put in time answering all your questions when you disregard all the advice.

    Assuming that everyone else behaves like you, as a way to justify you actions, is an extremely unhealthy way of using AAS.

    I don't mean to humiliate you and really hope everything works out for the best.

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    I have never donated blood.
    This is not good and is a perfect example of why you should only be using test.

    Imo you should come off everything and PCT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMA_Influenced View Post
    Im glad your paying attention.. im stopping next week. I know i didnt follow the script to a tee and maybe ive made some mistakes but at the end of the day i dont fully take anyones word for anything. I use it as a guideline and i listen to my body from there.. 2 examples:

    1. When i was starting out in lifting and wanted to bulk. I looked up and also asked people based on my height and weight about my macros are how much to eat. I followed the consensus and gained 20 pounds my first 4 weeks of mostly fat. Most people would be suprised at how i can bulk at a caloric level that they would probably lose weight at. Likewise despite all the above i also can lose weight crazy fast as well. This is how my body works. I respond to food or a lack there of STRONGLY. Much more so than the average person.

    2. Harsh tren sides. I got some acne on my jaw and some on my chest. Light acne. I havent had acne since i was 20. Those are my sides.. oh yeah and muscle growth. Those are the only 2 effects i noticed of tren. By reading what people say about the harsh sides i would of said you guys were all hysterical but i realize your body is not like mine therefore im not going to assume anything is fact for my body that is written on the internet.. i use it as a guideline or starting point.

    I understand in taking a risk and could make a mistake. I listened to my body.. felt pretty damn healhy aside from my resting heart rate and blood pressure and decided to push it for 12 weeks. I think most of you whether you admit it or not are in the same boat with me in doing things like this. Im experimenting with my body and the consequences im fully prepared to accept as we all do here. I feel very confident i will be completely fine.
    The thing about experimenting with your body and your willingness to accept the consequences is commendable. What you might find is that the sides do not show up just during the cycle but may manifest itself many months or even years after the cycle. All of a sudden you can't ejaculate and you can't figure it out since you haven't been on a cycle in a while. Hairloss is a good one. You might be fine with running Tren for years, like me, then all of a sudden you hair starts to thin. Just as a side note, on both side of my father's and mother's side there has been no bald men in 3 generations, I checked. None of my bothers are losing their hair, except me. It sucks and I don't want to take the consequences but here it is.
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    About hair, I'm experiencing regrowth where MPB was present, since I got on Tren . I wonder how that is possible, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    About hair, I'm experiencing regrowth where MPB was present, since I got on Tren. I wonder how that is possible, lol.
    Bro, you're a walking miracle, good on you. That bucks the trend because Trenbolone is more androgenic than DHT and it binds to androgen receptors in the hair and cause hairloss. If you're experiencing hair regrowth, who needs this science crap anyway, and keep going! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMA_Influenced View Post
    Im glad your paying attention.. im stopping next week. I know i didnt follow the script to a tee and maybe ive made some mistakes but at the end of the day i dont fully take anyones word for anything. I use it as a guideline and i listen to my body from there.. 2 examples:

    1. When i was starting out in lifting and wanted to bulk. I looked up and also asked people based on my height and weight about my macros are how much to eat. I followed the consensus and gained 20 pounds my first 4 weeks of mostly fat. Most people would be suprised at how i can bulk at a caloric level that they would probably lose weight at. Likewise despite all the above i also can lose weight crazy fast as well. This is how my body works. I respond to food or a lack there of STRONGLY. Much more so than the average person.

    2. Harsh tren sides. I got some acne on my jaw and some on my chest. Light acne. I havent had acne since i was 20. Those are my sides.. oh yeah and muscle growth. Those are the only 2 effects i noticed of tren. By reading what people say about the harsh sides i would of said you guys were all hysterical but i realize your body is not like mine therefore im not going to assume anything is fact for my body that is written on the internet.. i use it as a guideline or starting point.

    I understand in taking a risk and could make a mistake. I listened to my body.. felt pretty damn healhy aside from my resting heart rate and blood pressure and decided to push it for 12 weeks. I think most of you whether you admit it or not are in the same boat with me in doing things like this. Im experimenting with my body and the consequences im fully prepared to accept as we all do here. I feel very confident i will be completely fine.

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    Oh yeah, intense cardio on Tren . I've never been able to do intense cardio on Tren. Just doing HIIT is tough for me. I like to do bag work for cardio but while I'm on Tren, my 3 minute rounds go down to 1 min and I suck wind hard for the 60 second rest. Do what you can, Tren is working on your fat. Unless you're doing intense cardio as part of a CrossFit or some other sort of workout, I wouldn't do a lot of intense cardio while on Tren. The thinking is that you want your muscles to use the glycogen in lifting weights, which will increase muscle density and hypertrophy, instead of burning it off doing a lot of cardio. I guess it depends on your final objective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
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    But that is imop the biggest problem on here.Guys ask a question but already made their mind up wat they are going to do.They dont want the truth or the correct answer.They just want you to agree with them.And too me the biggest joke is these guys with very little cycle experience listening to a friend telling them they should run tren .When they can do just as good on test for their level.They just think its the miracle drug thats going to make them huge over night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMA_Influenced
    Im glad your paying attention.. im stopping next week. I know i didnt follow the script to a tee and maybe ive made some mistakes but at the end of the day i dont fully take anyones word for anything. I use it as a guideline and i listen to my body from there.. 2 examples: 1. When i was starting out in lifting and wanted to bulk. I looked up and also asked people based on my height and weight about my macros are how much to eat. I followed the consensus and gained 20 pounds my first 4 weeks of mostly fat. Most people would be suprised at how i can bulk at a caloric level that they would probably lose weight at. Likewise despite all the above i also can lose weight crazy fast as well. This is how my body works. I respond to food or a lack there of STRONGLY. Much more so than the average person. 2. Harsh tren sides. I got some acne on my jaw and some on my chest. Light acne. I havent had acne since i was 20. Those are my sides.. oh yeah and muscle growth. Those are the only 2 effects i noticed of tren. By reading what people say about the harsh sides i would of said you guys were all hysterical but i realize your body is not like mine therefore im not going to assume anything is fact for my body that is written on the internet.. i use it as a guideline or starting point. I understand in taking a risk and could make a mistake. I listened to my body.. felt pretty damn healhy aside from my resting heart rate and blood pressure and decided to push it for 12 weeks. I think most of you whether you admit it or not are in the same boat with me in doing things like this. Im experimenting with my body and the consequences im fully prepared to accept as we all do here. I feel very confident i will be completely fine.

    You don't count your resting heart beat going up over 40 beats a minutes a harsh side?
    You don't count your blood pressure going up a harsh side?

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    I do hiit, Crossfit and or play 2 hours of basekball on tren and seem to be fine. I have never really notice a difference in stamina other than when I'm 20-25lbs heavier with Tren built muscle mass lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMA_Influenced View Post
    I listened to my body.. felt pretty damn healhy aside from my resting heart rate and blood pressure and decided to push it for 12 weeks. I think most of you whether you admit it or not are in the same boat with me in doing things like this. Im experimenting with my body and the consequences im fully prepared to accept as we all do here. I feel very confident i will be completely fine.
    Quote Originally Posted by MMA_Influenced View Post
    My resting heart rate and blood pressure are both high. But not extremely. 96 resting heart rate.. just checked it while ive been laying in bed here.. my blood pressure was also elevated but not to an extreme sense. I forget what the number was. I think it was like 140 over something i forget the other number.
    Priceless.

    Next thing you might be saying is:"feel pretty damn healhy aside from being dead"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    Bro, you're a walking miracle, good on you. That bucks the trend because Trenbolone is more androgenic than DHT and it binds to androgen receptors in the hair and cause hairloss. If you're experiencing hair regrowth, who needs this science crap anyway, and keep going! LOL
    It's not more androgenic than DHT to my understanding, but it lacks specific tissue selectivity that DHT has for scalp, hair, and prostate. That means it shouldn't affect those unless you go high in dose. But really, I was thinking about some result of progestogenic activity in the regards of hairline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMA_Influenced View Post
    Hey this tren is really kicked in.. ive got like just under 100 beats per minute resting heart rate right now. I want to trim up a bit but im afraid of pushing too hard on cardio. Im 30 btw.

    Should i keep to just jogging or am i good to push it a bit?
    I will run Cardarine with my tren soon because cardarine lowers heart beat at rest and i think the benefits from cardarine, especially on tren, overshadows the min risk of getting cancer from it.

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    in my 8th week of tren .

    I climbed 225 flights of stairs in 25 minutes on the stair master.

    I think thats pretty intense and I was fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    It's not more androgenic than DHT to my understanding, but it lacks specific tissue selectivity that DHT has for scalp, hair, and prostate. That means it shouldn't affect those unless you go high in dose. But really, I was thinking about some result of progestogenic activity in the regards of hairline.
    According to Wikipedia (if you believe in wikipedia), "DHT has two to three times greater androgen receptor affinity than testosterone and has 15–30 times greater affinity than adrenal androgens.[8]" Tren is 5 times more androgenic than Testosterone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    According to Wikipedia (if you believe in wikipedia), "DHT has two to three times greater androgen receptor affinity than testosterone and has 15–30 times greater affinity than adrenal androgens.[8]" Tren is 5 times more androgenic than Testosterone.
    Yeah but "tissue selectivity". Let's not forget that, for example, DHT won't bind to muscle AR. The hair follicles got a thing for DHT and that's why is so deleterious to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    Yeah but "tissue selectivity". Let's not forget that, for example, DHT won't bind to muscle AR.
    And the little bit that does get into muscle is quickly eliminated anyway...
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