First Cycle...Dbol Only Oral

**twantsgains** · 10-25-2016, 09:51 PM

I've done my research and I know that this isn't safe at 19. I am going to do this cycle pretty much regardless of what the potential negative sides are. I will have nolva on hand incase estrogenic sides are bad. Let me introduce myself since this is my first post
I'm 19 have been lifting for 2 years I used to be really fat from 190 to 145 with little muscle mass. Now I am around 170 have gained some fat but much more muscle than fat in personal opinion. Although I am a little bloated being in college I drink a little more than I should but this will stop soon enough. I'd guess I'm around 15 percent bf. Was lower had two pack but started to bulk. My question is what would be the best option for this cycle I was thinking 20/30/30/30/30 for dbol , supplementing aromasin and milk thistle. On campus I will get BP checked every other day and will test blood levels pre and post cycle. My PCT was going to be Nolva and Clomy because that seems to work for most. 20/20/20/20 nolva
50/50/50/50 clomid

WITH Cycle
500mg ed milk thistle
1500-2500mg NAC liver support ed
12.5 aromasin eod

I plan to post all of my stats and increases here so please dont flame me for my decisions. Only looking for advice and opinions, or horror stories if you had a negative experience just dont hit me with the list of sides ive read all of them 200 times i promise. If you experienced these sides please share but if you didnt dont. I hope to contribute to this community and eventually help everyone through my experiences.

Lifts
190lb BP (yesterday on a bulk)
325 DL (3 months ago on a cut)
315 Squat (3 months ago on a cut)
Yeah my bench blows dick I know

**Marsoc** · 10-25-2016, 10:07 PM

Ur on ur own I'm pretty sure dude. I'm sure nobody will support ur actions by giving u advice.

**twantsgains** · 10-25-2016, 10:14 PM

Kind of a shame too. I understand it isn't advised but if I'm going to do it and have done my research I don't understand what is wrong with help. I know a few friends who did dbol and test in a cycle. They didn't do a pct an didn't get fucked up. I think they are idiots and they try to give me advice on what to do and other than reading forums and having idiotic friends I know nothing for advice. That's what I came here for. Either way thanks man!

**Marsoc** · 10-25-2016, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by twantsgains

Kind of a shame too. I understand it isn't advised but if I'm going to do it and have done my research I don't understand what is wrong with help. I know a few friends who did dbol and test in a cycle. They didn't do a pct an didn't get fucked up. I think they are idiots and they try to give me advice on what to do and other than reading forums and having idiotic friends I know nothing for advice. That's what I came here for. Either way thanks man!

I should take that back. I'm sure they will give u advice but will strongly disagree. Dude I'm 32 considering my first cycle ever. Just to give be a performance boost for. Special forces program...why did u feel u need roids when ur 19 anyways. ..and do u think ur body will retain any gains if u make them...and then what. U will be on roids the rest of ur life to keep making them. which will suck. ..I'm dreading my side efftects even now.

**twantsgains** · 10-25-2016, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by Marsoc

I should take that back. I'm sure they will give u advice but will strongly disagree. Dude I'm 32 considering my first cycle ever. Just to give be a performance boost for. Special forces program...why did u feel u need roids when ur 19 anyways. ..and do u think ur body will retain any gains if u make them...and then what. U will be on roids the rest of ur life to keep making them. which will suck. ..I'm dreading my side efftects even now.

Really? I want to take aas for a competitive edge, I have aspirations for competing and yes I do think I will keep gains from dbol only cycle. I intend on maybe one cycle a year at the most.

**saucerking** · 10-25-2016, 11:30 PM

You're stupid...

**songdog** · 10-25-2016, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by twantsgains

Kind of a shame too. I understand it isn't advised but if I'm going to do it and have done my research I don't understand what is wrong with help. I know a few friends who did dbol and test in a cycle. They didn't do a pct an didn't get fucked up. I think they are idiots and they try to give me advice on what to do and other than reading forums and having idiotic friends I know nothing for advice. That's what I came here for. Either way thanks man!

How do you know they didnt do damage to their bodies when it can happen 10yrs later? And you are in the same boat.And oral cycles are junk!

**Mr.BB** · 10-26-2016, 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by twantsgains

Really? I want to take aas for a competitive edge, I have aspirations for competing and yes I do think I will keep gains from dbol only cycle. I intend on maybe one cycle a year at the most.

Big chances you will not keep any gains, some chances you will lose your hair and your dick's ability to get erect. Hope its worth it for you!

**ghettoboyd** · 10-26-2016, 02:47 AM

the others are right d-bol will just give you temporary gains (mostly water) that will disappear soon after starting...it is ill advised for anyone especially at your age...have you read "the young and steroids sticky" and "planning my first cycle" sticky at the top of the forum yet?...please do because you have so much to learn other than take steroids, get big...since your hell bent on screwing yourself up note that your pct is off had you done some research you would realize that...ill tell you this I waited till I was 36 before I cycled and at 44 wished id had never touched the stuff sometimes...sure I look great but need meds for my dick to work properly that should be enough to scare anyone...I cant imagine that problem at 19...good luck...

**Jax1** · 10-26-2016, 06:56 AM

if i ignore your age, your inexperience and your attitude i will still ask a question, " oral only cycle , why? Why not add some test?" I am curious..

Also if you have done your research then you should know dbol is mostly used in loading phase "with" test at the start of your cycle (4 weeks max). At least thats my understanding,

Guys please correct me if i am wrong.

**ScotchGuard02** · 10-26-2016, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by twantsgains

Kind of a shame too. I understand it isn't advised but if I'm going to do it and have done my research I don't understand what is wrong with help. I know a few friends who did dbol and test in a cycle. They didn't do a pct an didn't get fucked up. I think they are idiots and they try to give me advice on what to do and other than reading forums and having idiotic friends I know nothing for advice. That's what I came here for. Either way thanks man!

The problem with taking steroids young, is that the sides may not show up for months or even years later. Your body's endocrinology is a very sensitive system there are 9 glands that are secreting over a 100 different type of hormones into your body. There is a delicate interweaving of synergistic ballet that's going on between the different hormones to help you grow, maintain your mood, keep your nails strong, etc. Taking steroids at your age is definitely going to disrupt that system. Who knows what the end result will be, maybe nothing or maybe something major. It's just a crap shoot at your age. You body fully develops the endo system as well as your brain at about 25 years of age. This is why it is advised that healthy males don't cycle until the age of 25. If you've done your research and is going to run the dbol cycle come hell or high water, then what help do you need?

**Back In Black** · 10-26-2016, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by saucerking

You're stupid...

That's productive, thanks for your input. Now, go away.

**MuscleScience** · 10-26-2016, 09:29 AM

I would suggest an AI like Adex or Letro over Novla, which only blocks the estrogen receptor. Adex and letro block dbol conversion to estrogen.

**kelkel** · 10-26-2016, 09:42 AM

If you're dead set on running a cycle at your age then at least do it properly. Read the "Successful First Cycle" thread at the top of this forum. There's really no excuse for at least not following the directions given within it.