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    First cycle with TST Prop and Proviron

    Hi guys, i am 25 year old, 186cm 92kg with 9-10% bodyfat. I used Undestor Testocaps 240mg/per day before my first competion in Physique category this spring and i won second place, but next year i want go to Classic Physique category and i will must gain some muscle. So i want use some stronger, i think about this cycle:

    1-8 week:
    TST Propionate 150mg EoD
    Proviron 50mg every day
    4-8 week hcg 250iu twice a week
    + when i will need (gyno) i have a Letrozol

    pct:
    4 week
    clomid 50/50/25/25
    nolva 40/40/20/20

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    You've gotta a great physique and foundation to go with - well done!

    Imho, Letro is way to strong for a standard cycle with those doses... just use Anastrozole(arimidex ) .25mgs EOD from the start of your cycle!

    Also, start your hCG 250iu 2x wily from the beginning of your cycle Up to 3 days b4 starting PCT... which would be 3 days after your last pin!

    Have a read here too

    My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle
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    Thank you very much for your answer, so better for me is anastrazole, ok i buy it. I was reading so when i go this "light" cycle i need only one SERM no both clomid and nolva.... What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerdna View Post
    Thank you very much for your answer, so better for me is anastrazole, ok i buy it. I was reading so when i go this "light" cycle i need only one SERM no both clomid and nolva.... What do you think?
    Your PCT should, imho, include both clomid and nolvadex ! They work synergistically... and it's better to be safe and run both... recovery is never gauranteed - so imo I'd cover all my basis and be as safe & preventative as possible in all aspects of a cycle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    Your PCT should, imho, include both clomid and nolvadex! They work synergistically... and it's better to be safe and run both... recovery is never gauranteed - so imo I'd cover all my basis and be as safe & preventative as possible in all aspects of a cycle...
    Thank you very much bro, and last question, what do you think about proviron ? It is good choice into my cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerdna View Post
    Thank you very much bro, and last question, what do you think about proviron? It is good choice into my cycle?
    I don't know what your goals are? Imho, it may help dry you out but not with muscle building - it's a synthetic DHT.

    Is this for a show? If not I wouldn't run it at all(ever but that's me)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    I don't know what your goals are? Imho, it may help dry you out but not with muscle building - it's a synthetic DHT.

    Is this for a show? If not I wouldn't run it at all(ever but that's me)
    Hi, what do you think about this cycle? :
    1-8 week 100mg TST Prop EoD
    4-8 week 50mg Proviron

    PTC:
    Anastrazol 0.25mg EoD
    Clomid 50/50/25/25

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerdna View Post
    Hi, what do you think about this cycle? :
    1-8 week 100mg TST Prop EoD
    4-8 week 50mg Proviron

    PTC:
    Anastrazol 0.25mg EoD
    Clomid 50/50/25/25
    Very wrong.

    Lose the proviron.
    Anastrazole is to be used during cycle.
    Add HCG during cycle.
    You need nolva together with clomid for PCT.
    Better to use Test E, prop gives debilitating PIP.

    Did you read the link or anything Nach told you above???

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