Help hematocrit

**fire232** · 11-01-2016, 08:50 PM

Is there anything that some of you take to help with blood thickining if your on EQ for example?

**numbere** · 11-01-2016, 08:58 PM

Lose some blood by means of blood donation or self phlebotomy.

**austinite** · 11-01-2016, 09:01 PM

Blood must leave the body in order to reduce cell counts. Nothing you can "take". EQ is very harsh on red cell production, I'd advise you to have multiple therapeutic phlebotomies performed throughout your cycle. And of course my better advice which is usually not welcomed among EQ users, throw it away. It's quite worthless in my opinion.

**AR's King Silabolin** · 11-02-2016, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

Blood must leave the body in order to reduce cell counts. Nothing you can "take". EQ is very harsh on red cell production, I'd advise you to have multiple therapeutic phlebotomies performed throughout your cycle. And of course my better advice which is usually not welcomed among EQ users, throw it away. It's quite worthless in my opinion.

Not necessarily. Some pubmed reports suggests that grape may help significantly if hct is way out of order. Some of them went from 54 to 49.
Hct displays how many % the red blood cells tax your entire blood.
Didnt understand if it erased some of the rbc(not likely)or put more liquid to the blood maken it thinner.
So i guess it would do nothing for rbc but it migth lower hct, which is more important.
But i wouldnt count on grape. If hct is 54+ its time to bleed.

**01dragonslayer** · 11-02-2016, 06:10 AM

My hematocrit was slightly above the norm. My Endo doc put my on a baby ASA/per day and levels were back to norm.

**AR's King Silabolin** · 11-02-2016, 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer

My hematocrit was slightly above the norm. My Endo doc put my on a baby ASA/per day and levels were back to norm.

Asa = dispril/aspirin?
Strange. I swear some other vets in here said it would not decrease hct...just prevent clotting

**DocToxin8** · 11-02-2016, 07:11 AM

I use ASA as well, but didn't think it helped with hematocrit.
But it's a good idea to use if you got high hct, or for any AAS user for that matter, unless you got a stomach ulcer or such.

**austinite** · 11-02-2016, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

Not necessarily. Some pubmed reports suggests that grape may help significantly if hct is way out of order. Some of them went from 54 to 49.
Hct displays how many % the red blood cells tax your entire blood.
Didnt understand if it erased some of the rbc(not likely)or put more liquid to the blood maken it thinner.
So i guess it would do nothing for rbc but it migth lower hct, which is more important.
But i wouldnt count on grape. If hct is 54+ its time to bleed.

That's a temporary effect. Not a solution to the problem. Your hCT can fluctuate significantly simply with hydration levels. It's impossible to "erase" rbc's.

**AR's King Silabolin** · 11-03-2016, 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

That's a temporary effect. Not a solution to the problem. Your hCT can fluctuate significantly simply with hydration levels. It's impossible to "erase" rbc's.

So u are not safe when your hct is ok. U need to get the rbc in order aswell?

**austinite** · 11-03-2016, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

So u are not safe when your hct is ok. U need to get the rbc in order aswell?

Yes. Remember that steroids suppress Hepcidin, which results in excess RBC's. At that point, you'd have to be super hydrated 24/7. And with continued AAS use and no phlebotomy, it's a surefire way to decrease hCT.

Meds that increase vessel circumference, hydration, etc... are all temporary. You'll soon return to homeostasis and when you do, there will be a traffic jam in your blood because you never lost one red cell.