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    2nd Cycle Advise

    Looking for critique on my upcoming cycle - please make me aware of what Iím missing.

    Stats:
    36yo male
    5í7Ē
    170lbs
    ~14% bf (12% according to air displacement test - 15% according to bioelectrical impedance)

    Cycle Experience:
    This is my 2nd cycle. My first (2011) was testosterone propionate at 420mg per week (105mg EoD) for 10 weeks. Since it was so long ago, Iím treating this second cycle like it were my first.

    Training Experience/Injuries:
    Iím in a career where physical performance is primary. We have our own physical therapist and athletic trainers. Iíve been seriously training for well over a decade and have sustained a few injuries along the way:
    - shoulder impingement
    - elbow tendonitis (lateral epicondylitis)
    - patellar tendonitis
    - L2, L3 disk herniation x3 years ago
    Physical therapy has me in the right place. Zero pain with all lifts and no issues running on a bum knee.

    Goal:
    Simply add strength and lean muscle mass - keeping my bf below 12%

    Cycle Proposal:
    Week 1 to 12: Test E @ 300mg per week. (150mg twice weekly)
    Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 250 IU twice weekly
    Week 1 to 13: Adex @ 0.25mg every other day

    Iíll take two weeks off after last injection and then PCT with Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 and Nolva @ 40/20/20/20

    Why the low test dose:
    Numerous conversation with very experienced vets here. Most everyone agrees, Iíll be just as suppressed at 300mgs as I would 500mgs. Iíve read studies that prove a 600mg dose is 75% more effective than a 300mg dose. With that said, I had a terrible experience with my first cycle and do not want to go down that road of side effects again. Whatís more, my understanding is that a low does may yield less results - but also less side effects. In truth, Iím dipping my toes in the water. Itís like I had a bad car wreck and I just want to drive the neighborhood before I get on the highway. I have access to plenty of test at low cost - if this cycle is successful, I plan to do my next @ 500mg or higher.

    Once this proposal is ironed out, I plan to keep a log.

    Thank you for you help, let me know what you think.

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    You would benefit from using the hcg from day one until 2-3 days before starting PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    You would benefit from using the hcg from day one until 2-3 days before starting PCT.
    Should I run the AI that long as well?

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    Other than the HCG , which I need to figure out, an other critiques on this cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSwole View Post
    Should I run the AI that long as well?
    Sure, you can continue taking dex during this time period.

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