Cycle length for wht I got

[Marsoc]

Attachment 166199Was wondering if a 8-10 week cycle would be sufficient. I have 20-1ml amps of sus250 @250mg/ml
And 20- 2ml amps aqua test suspension @50mg/ml.
Trying to divide it evenly so I can HIT around 500mg/week

Figuring I'll divide the sus250 to eod or 3 days a week to have more steady blood levels
And the suspension I will do pre workout @50mg each session (5 sessions a week )

I have Nolvadex
Clomid
Arimidex
srill searching for HCG if I can get it
And saving money for blood work
Currently 6', 205lbs , probably 14% BF.
Training experience- i train like a machine

[Marsoc]

I know I have them layed out at. 700mg/week
I want to maybe make it 300mg sus250/week
And 200mg aqua test /week

[numbere]

Looks like you have the meat and potatoes of the cycle.

If this is your first cycle then I don't think it's a good idea to mess with test suspension.

Imo use this cycle to figure out how your body responds to 500mg/week of sus, 500IU/week of hcg and 0.25mg/EOD of pharmacy grade dex.

[TestoSuper]

test suspension is unnecessary
as first cycle, you can have amazing gains simply from sustanon 500 mg/week, no other
obiouvsly adex and hcg during cycle

[jstone]

I love suspension, but I wouldn't add it right away. I would save it for a later cycle. Test suspension also is known to be a painful injection, so it would also help to have some injections done before you try suspension. You can feel it the second it hits your muscle. Its a weird sensation that I have grown to love, but I wouldn't want to do it for a first cycle. It will also make all other pre workouts other than tren base seem like garbage.

You have a solid 10 week cycle with just the sust. You can get hcg very easy. You know the order your waiting on they have a sister site that sells hcg. Just google it and get your HCG.

If you cant find the hcg send me a pm, and I set you up with a place to get it.

[Obs]

test suspension is unnecessary
as first cycle, you can have amazing gains simply from sustanon 500 mg/week, no other
obiouvsly adex and hcg during cycle

I agree.

[Marsoc]

Yeah I was thinking that I should save the suspension .man! I was just so psyched about the pre workout aspect. I don't take pre workout. Just whey, carbs and some caffeine maybe. BCAAs during if I have them. And pure motivation ..
About the sus250..pin 1 amp on Monday and 1 on Thursday I imagine ..
PS: I have 10ml of deca 250mg/ml as well ..just to have. But this being potential first cycle that will wait.

[Marsoc]

Removed. Double post

[Couchlock]

Yeah I was thinking that I should save the suspension .man! I was just so psyched about the pre workout aspect. I don't take pre workout. Just whey, carbs and some caffeine maybe. BCAAs during if I have them. And pure motivation ..
About the sus250..pin 1 amp on Monday and 1 on Thursday I imagine ..
PS: I have 10ml of deca 250mg/ml as well ..just to have. But this being potential first cycle that will wait.

Dude, in was in the same boat, "would 10 weeks be good" I was cheating out not wanting to buy a nother vial for 2 weeks.

But I bought 3 more. Lol

The thing is, is this is my first cycle, week 9.5 in think either that or being start of week 9.

Any way, you just start seeing nice nice size and strength gains starting around week 7 thru 10 ish (did a double take in the mirror around week 8)

Id be pissed if I didn't get enough to run 14 weeks , and had to stop at 10.

I cant wait to see those next 5 weeks, plus I'm tossing anavar in there at week 11 to start of pct (28 days of 35mg var ed.)

What I'm saying is, the "nuts" of the cycle kick in around those 8 to 10 week marks, run that shit out for 12 at very least.

Hcg , dude pm me.

[Marsoc]

Dude, in was in the same boat, "would 10 weeks be good" I was cheating out not wanting to buy a nother vial for 2 weeks.

But I bought 3 more. Lol

The thing is, is this is my first cycle, week 9.5 in think either that or being start of week 9.

Any way, you just start seeing nice nice size and strength gains starting around week 7 thru 10 ish (did a double take in the mirror around week 8)

Id be pissed if I didn't get enough to run 14 weeks , and had to stop at 10.

I cant wait to see those next 5 weeks, plus I'm tossing anavar in there at week 11 to start of pct (28 days of 35mg var ed.)

What I'm saying is, the "nuts" of the cycle kick in around those 8 to 10 week marks, run that shit out for 12 at very least.

Hcg, dude pm me.

Yeah I hit you up ..all I got is what I got right now so that's 10 weeks of sus250 and maybe can stretch it with the suspension for the last 2 to make it 12. We'll see though. I swear I seen gains from just 2 shots of propionate I had when I knew jack shit about anything. I thought I would start a half ass cycle and had to stop. But I pinned 100mg of propionate twice and I swear I was seeing gains. But I can see gains naturally though in short time. So I'm pumped about this 10-12 week cycle. I'm not going to say much more about what I think for my cycle before I get yelled at lol

[Euroholic]

What are your cycle goals? If your concerned about recovery mate you should get prop and do a 6-8 week blast. The right training and food and you will explode. Do it hard recover then plan your next blast

[Euroholic]

I love suspension, but I wouldn't add it right away. I would save it for a later cycle. Test suspension also is known to be a painful injection, so it would also help to have some injections done before you try suspension. You can feel it the second it hits your muscle. Its a weird sensation that I have grown to love, but I wouldn't want to do it for a first cycle. It will also make all other pre workouts other than tren base seem like garbage.

You have a solid 10 week cycle with just the sust. You can get hcg very easy. You know the order your waiting on they have a sister site that sells hcg. Just google it and get your HCG.

If you cant find the hcg send me a pm, and I set you up with a place to get it.

Love the open sourcing

[jstone]

Love the open sourcing

Thats funny open sourcing. Just telling someone where they can get hcg is hardly sourcing. If I was sourcing I would just pass the list via pm, as the rules state. If all he needs is hcg and has been here posting for as long as he has waiting to put his cycle together properly before he starts. Im going to help him out on where to get something as simple as hcg.

[songdog]

Looks like you have the meat and potatoes of the cycle.

If this is your first cycle then I don't think it's a good idea to mess with test suspension.

Imo use this cycle to figure out how your body responds to 500mg/week of sus, 500IU/week of hcg and 0.25mg/EOD of pharmacy grade dex.

No he needs too feel the PAIN

[numbere]

No he needs too feel the PAIN

Haha I'm confident Marsoc can take the pain.

And lets face it, test is test.

My major worry about him using suspension during his first cycle is that it may skew his mid cycle bw, or if he turns out to be a high aromatizer it may make controlling e2 more difficult.

[Mr.BB]

Haha I'm confident Marsoc can take the pain.

And lets face it, test is test.

My major worry about him using suspension during his first cycle is that it may skew his mid cycle bw, or if he turns out to be a high aromatizer it may make controlling e2 more difficult.

Agreed. Test susp is not for 1st timers, sorry.

[jstone]

I still remember the first time I injected suspension. I thought that it wasnt for me, but after the workout I fell in love. The pain is wierd, it hurts, but I have grown to love the way it feels.

[numbere]

Agreed. Test susp is not for 1st timers, sorry.

A lot of people fail to see the big picture with a first cycle.

I'm not calling you out here Marsoc, I'm just making a blanket statement.

All your future cycles will be based on your first cycle and there's a lot to learn in a short period of time.

There's so much to lean and so much that can/will go wrong that you need to keep things as simple as possible.

How to pin, where to pin, how much AI to take, and at some point during your first cycle you will probably realize how little you now about dieting.

[Mr.BB]

I still remember the first time I injected suspension. I thought that it wasnt for me, but after the workout I fell in love. The pain is wierd, it hurts, but I have grown to love the way it feels.

Yes, its a different kind of PIP, dont you feel it kinda wears off a bit if you use it too often?

For me the PIP resembles DOMS, or at least the DOMS are worse on that muscles.

[numbere]

Yes, its a different kind of PIP, dont you feel it kinda wears off a bit if you use it too often?

If I pin it ED the PIP seems to lessen but I shoot it in my thighs and it always leaves black and blue spots or lines.

[Mr.BB]

If I pin it ED the PIP seems to lessen but I shoot it in my thighs and it always leaves black and blue spots or lines.

Stop hitting your veins then!

Seems a waste to pin test susp on a muscle you are not training inside an hour time.

[jstone]

Yes, its a different kind of PIP, dont you feel it kinda wears off a bit if you use it too often?

For me the PIP resembles DOMS, or at least the DOMS are worse on that muscles.

Its very different, the pip to me is similar to DOMS. Its just a slight tenderness. I definitely think if used to often its not as effective. I like to stick with it on back and leg days, and not on every back or leg day. I haven't had good suspension in a while, I tried TNE, but to me its not near as good.

[Mr.BB]

Its very different, the pip to me is similar to DOMS. Its just a slight tenderness. I definitely think if used to often its not as effective. I like to stick with it on back and leg days, and not on every back or leg day. I haven't had good suspension in a while, I tried TNE, but to me its not near as good.

Agreed!

Never done legs. Mostly pin bis and tris, also back, chest and delts, but less.

[numbere]

Seems a waste to pin test susp on a muscle you are not training inside an hour time.

Hmm I'll have to give this a try.

[Couchlock]

Is the pip like you injected liquid that just keeps burning?

Can you guys elaborate on the suspension injection pain?

[Marsoc]

I appreciate all the feedback. I will move then likely just use the sus250. And maybe. Just maybe throw in a suspension amp before legs just to experience it.

Regarding that. Does it help if u pin suspension in the muscle u Will train that day ..area growth or whatever it's called. And I heard u take the suspension like 2 hours before a session. I'm not planning on using the aqua test just so u know. Just curious.

Ya know what else I'm curious about...is what u guys were talking about that's not discussed openly on forum. The "tricks " and what not. I want tricks

And yeah I have an idea in diet but def not anywhere near what I think I know probably. Did learning though. I'm not strict at all. Cuz I'm not working and can't prep all I that I want ..alot of what mom makes. And also what I buy. Today post workout meal was ahi tuna steaks. No veggies. I need more veggies

[Mr.BB]

Hmm I'll have to give this a try.

For example you want to hit lateral delt head, or the outer bi head, pin 50mg on each side and go train. You will be able during the exercises to hit the exact area you want to just concentrating on the pain. Works better on smal muscles for obvious reasons.
Dont know much about localised growth, but the above works.

[Marsoc]

Is the pip like you injected liquid that just keeps burning?

Can you guys elaborate on the suspension injection pain?

I think it disperses quicker since it's water and not oil. But that's another thing I am awaiting to find out. The soreness from injecting. I'm no rookie at injecting. Believe me. But I did give it a try when I did that prop for two pins. Right in the bum. Went well. ..does the pip or whatever. Does it like impair u as like a sore infection does. Like red and real tender.

[Marsoc]

For example you want to hit lateral delt head, or the outer bi head, pin 50mg on each side and go train. You will be able during the exercises to hit the exact area you want to just concentrating on the pain. Works better on smal muscles for obvious reasons.
Dont know much about localised growth, but the above works.

That's the word. Localized growth.

[Mr.BB]

That's the word. Localized growth.

What word? myth?

[Marsoc]

What word? myth?

Is it. I just seen u guys talking about it ..I was starting to assume it's possible with suspension. Maybe I read it wrong .but how long would u wait I'd the aqua test was taken pre workout. 1 or 2 hours

[Marsoc]

PS. Man this thread is taking off out of nowhere. Lol