First test cycle

**Crf450r r r** · 11-13-2016, 01:06 PM

How does my first cycle look? Anything I should change and why?

Week 1-11: test E 500mg, 250u hcg , quarter tablet arimidex every other day
Week 12: 250mg test E, 150u hcg, quarter tablet arimidex every other day
Week 13-16: quarter tablet arimidex twice a week for the first two weeks, nolva 50/50/40/30

The reason I run ai into pct is I want to be 100% sure my estrogen doesn't go to far above normal because SERM's don't protect against all estrogen related sides.

**Scorpion0922** · 11-13-2016, 02:40 PM

What's your age, ht/wt, BF% training history?

**Crf450r r r** · 11-13-2016, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Scorpion0922

What's your age, ht/wt, BF% training history?

Age:22
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 150
Bf: around 10%
Been training for a couple years on and off but been serious about it over the last year

**Back In Black** · 11-13-2016, 04:13 PM

Here's the truth, aside from your age -

You need to eat. Then eat some more and then eat lots more. I know I know you eat loads but you don't eat enough.

Visit our diet section and start a thread there after reading this

http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutri...%2A%2A%2A.html

**songdog** · 11-13-2016, 04:14 PM

BRO!!!!!!! lets for a minute you are too young.But 5'10 150??? you are way under weight.You really dont need aas you need to learn how to eat.I know this isnt wat you want to hear.You want to just get big over night.Well sorry it dont work like that.Not even with aas beacuse if you do gain which I doubt you will lose everything.Beacuse if you put on 20lbs you have to eat like a 170lb guy.Hit our diet section post your diet and they will help.Tell Kel Songdog sent you!

**Scorpion0922** · 11-13-2016, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Crf450r r r

Age:22
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 150
Bf: around 10%
Been training for a couple years on and off but been serious about it over the last year

Ok thanks for the info.

22 = too young
5'10 & 150 = too undersized
1 year of serious training = not long enough

Nutrition is your best friend right now, not only the amounts but the right foods FOR YOU and prepared the right way.

A nutrition coach would be a good start.

**Crf450r r r** · 11-13-2016, 07:26 PM

I was 130 when I started a year ago and I've lean bulked to 150 on 3300 calories and I've recently bumped it to 4000

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 11-13-2016, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Crf450r r r

I was 130 when I started a year ago and I've lean bulked to 150 on 3300 calories and I've recently bumped it to 4000

Good. You put on 20lbs in a year.
Now do it again.

**Crf450r r r** · 11-13-2016, 07:34 PM

Alright, I will wait. i would still like to boost test without aas though, ive heard most test boosters don't do **** so I heard some have tried using clomid or hcg maybe cycled to boost test?

**Couchlock** · 11-13-2016, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Crf450r r r

Alright, I will wait. i would still like to boost test without aas though, ive heard most test boosters don't do **** so I heard some have tried using clomid or hcg maybe cycled to boost test?

Why boost test.

You ain't gonna boost it enough to do shit for muscle gain.

And that being said, when test goes up, so does other hormones, which may even counteract the minimal test boost anyway.

Your age, you got test for days.

Use it wisely.

**Back In Black** · 11-14-2016, 01:49 AM

Food is the best anabolic you can get.

**Jaydenn** · 11-14-2016, 04:31 AM

agreed with the above, need to put on some lean size first.

**Crf450r r r** · 11-14-2016, 06:11 AM

Aight, how do my max's look for my weight/height?
Bench: 190
Squat: 250 (low)
Deadlift: 340

**Scorpion0922** · 11-14-2016, 08:32 AM

Max's are irrelevant unless you're a powerlifter.

**Couchlock** · 11-14-2016, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Scorpion0922

Max's are irrelevant unless you're a powerlifter.

Damn right.

We don't lift the same way as powerlifters.

I mean not typically.

I kinda do on chest movements, other than that I really try to go to fail quickly as of late.

**Stevebeginner** · 11-14-2016, 10:13 PM

From what ive read in stickies take above advice just read all diet stickies thats where i am now i wanted to start test cycle a month ago after reading frew stickies and getting advice i reckon im a good 6 months off, i now have new goals im pushing towards first and more learning to do while i get my body/ diet / training perfect and ready to go,

**Stevebeginner** · 11-14-2016, 10:15 PM

Again my only advice read them all a few times with open mind not just trying to find a reason why u should start now, with a good diet/supplements/vitamins u cud still get a lot of natural gains,
Im no expert so if i learnt the error of my ways u will to mate