Test and irritability

**TRA** · 11-14-2016, 04:15 PM

Wanted some input here...test only cycle coming up, will do test 500/wk, on TRT.
I have cycled remotely (6-8 y ago) and only sides I experienced were acne and insomnia (including cycles that were test/tren /deca even). But things were different then and I have a lot of stressors now with divorce, child custody, huge work stress and not enough sleep, juggling time to see girlfriend, etc.
Even though I don't have a history of feeling irritable or having increased anger on test, I'm a little concerned about it. I thought it might help to hear what you guys have experienced, if ever you have become more irritable, what you did if so, or maybe enough positive feedback and I can stop worrying about it.

**Jonbana** · 11-14-2016, 04:43 PM

I find when I blast it calms me down if anything and I feel more relaxed and happier over all

I think a lot has to do with the ego boost you get on a blast you're stronger bigger etc feel king of the work but we all react differently

**hammerheart** · 11-14-2016, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ

if ever you have become more irritable

Only with unbalanced estro.

**TRA** · 11-14-2016, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

Only with unbalanced estro.

Excellent point. Will be monitoring and have adex in hand.

**hammerheart** · 11-14-2016, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ

Excellent point. Will be monitoring and have adex in hand.

Keep in mind that life stresses pull the HPA axis trigger. That means high cortisol and cathecolamines. True androgens like Test can help manage this better, as long as you have a bit of brain estradiol to balance it. Don't overdo AIs.

**TRA** · 11-14-2016, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

Keep in mind that life stresses pull the HPA axis trigger. That means high cortisol and cathecolamines. True androgens like Test can help manage this better, as long as you have a bit of brain estradiol to balance it. Don't overdo AIs.

Thanks - cortisol undoubtedly high now due to limited sleep and stress (hate saying "I'm stressed" because it sounds like I'm a wimp, but have to face facts with all I have going on), but hoping low dose GH is taking care of that.

My TRT doc has been torturing me with letrozole for the better part of a year so know about low (non-existent) estrogen. Started adex on the advice of a knowledgeable member and feel MUCH better. Will follow closely. Plane .25 EOD to start. I seem to respond really well to those. The letrozole crushed me for a long time.

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 11-14-2016, 07:42 PM

I would avoid tren .
See how you handle just test first.

**gymffiti** · 11-14-2016, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

Only with unbalanced estro.

Opposite to the OP, I find Low T makes me irritable ... So this now makes sense

**ScotchGuard02** · 11-15-2016, 01:35 PM

AAS affect on human behavior 101 (life according to Scotchguard). If you're a dick before AAS, you're a dick while on AAS. Oh, and vice a versa.

**TRA** · 11-15-2016, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by gymffiti

Opposite to the OP, I find Low T makes me irritable ... So this now makes sense

Low T was brutal - I was about as irritable as it's possible to be for quite a while until I discovered the low test. I didn't realize how utterly horrible I felt until I got on TRT and felt better. Worst couple years of my life by far.

**Ashop** · 11-15-2016, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ

Wanted some input here...test only cycle coming up, will do test 500/wk, on TRT.
I have cycled remotely (6-8 y ago) and only sides I experienced were acne and insomnia (including cycles that were test/tren /deca even). But things were different then and I have a lot of stressors now with divorce, child custody, huge work stress and not enough sleep, juggling time to see girlfriend, etc.
Even though I don't have a history of feeling irritable or having increased anger on test, I'm a little concerned about it. I thought it might help to hear what you guys have experienced, if ever you have become more irritable, what you did if so, or maybe enough positive feedback and I can stop worrying about it.

I think that the whole 'roid rage or excessive aggression is FAR overrated with AAS use. I'm not saying it cant exist but its exaggerated to a large degree. I think some people just use it as an excuse to act like an a$$hole.

**Frenchy93** · 11-15-2016, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by ALIN

I think that the whole 'roid rage or excessive aggression is FAR overrated with AAS use. I'm not saying it cant exist but its exaggerated to a large degree. I think some people just use it as an excuse to act like an a$$hole.

I thought exactly this until my most recent cycle. I have told people for a long time that roid rage is a myth but my last cycle proved me completely wrong. Did I go around beating my girlfriend and freaking out at people? No, but if annoyed or irritated I would get angry.

**Couchlock** · 11-15-2016, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Frenchy93

I thought exactly this until my most recent cycle. I have told people for a long time that roid rage is a myth but my last cycle proved me completely wrong. Did I go around beating my girlfriend and freaking out at people? No, but if annoyed or irritated I would get angry.

I found this as well.

Once you get pissed and mad, I found test at 600mg per week, made a little more mad longer when my temper was tripped.

I like to put it this way.

Test amplifies thing exponentially,
Eat shitty, it shows 10x more
Eat good, it shows 10x more
Train hard, it pays off 10x more
Train shitty, it shows 10x more
Piss me off, I'm madder 10x more.
Make me happy, I'm happy 10x more.

Just dont fuck with halo..... I hear that is the one that twists your logic of right from wrong.

**TRA** · 11-15-2016, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by ALIN

I think that the whole 'roid rage or excessive aggression is FAR overrated with AAS use. I'm not saying it cant exist but its exaggerated to a large degree. I think some people just use it as an excuse to act like an a$$hole.

Yeah, I wasn't referring to roid rage . Just with a lot going on I find I am pretty irritable at times as it is so just wanted a gut check prior to cycling. I have a good woman now and I don't want to f*ck it up, but I've heard good stuff and think it should be fine.

**gymffiti** · 11-16-2016, 02:56 AM

Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ

Low T was brutal - I was about as irritable as it's possible to be for quite a while until I discovered the low test. I didn't realize how utterly horrible I felt until I got on TRT and felt better. Worst couple years of my life by far.

It's good to hear that getting your T levels sorted, has improved things for you.

I'm currently trying to get things sorted, so 2017 can be the beginning of the recovery for me too

**hammerheart** · 11-16-2016, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by Couchlockd

I found this as well.
Just dont fuck with halo..... I hear that is the one that twists your logic of right from wrong.

Halo is truly an interesting compound, but it's way more liver toxic than anything I'm willing to take.

**hammerheart** · 11-16-2016, 04:05 AM

Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ

Yeah, I wasn't referring to roid rage. Just with a lot going on I find I am pretty irritable at times as it is so just wanted a gut check prior to cycling. I have a good woman now and I don't want to f*ck it up, but I've heard good stuff and think it should be fine.

Irritability and anger are two distinct phenomenons, according to my experience. The former is usually more associated with stress states and hormonal imbalance. Being angry might effectively be triggered by AAS fvcking with your brain.