U should try a dbol/tren combo!

**AR's King Silabolin** · 11-15-2016, 07:30 AM

Man im 8 days in and im not kidding, the mirror changes day by day. Im totally different know than one week ago.
Im on 300 tren a and 20 mg dbol with the test and i have ever never felt anything like this. Ok, dbol/tren is the harshest there is but i think its worth it. Trying to eat healthy and doing the rigth supps.
I think 7 weeks are enough cause i already feel it bad in my face.
But every workout is christmas and i think i got myself a new favourite stack.

**TestoSuper** · 11-15-2016, 07:46 AM

are you using even test together or not?

**AR's King Silabolin** · 11-15-2016, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by TestoSuper

are you using even test together or not?

250-750 mg sustanon . Im on 500 now

**dumbtoad** · 11-15-2016, 07:57 AM

How much are you taking?

**AR's King Silabolin** · 11-15-2016, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by dumbtoad

How much are you taking?

U blind or just too dumb to ad?

**TestoSuper** · 11-15-2016, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

250-750 mg sustanon. Im on 500 now

ok... interesting... never tried tren until now, but I'm studying it for my next cycles so any information is useful!

**AR's King Silabolin** · 11-15-2016, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by TestoSuper

ok... interesting... never tried tren until now, but I'm studying it for my next cycles so any information is useful!

Go for acetate. Leaves the body quick if something goes wrong. The best there is. I always get the nasty faceside from it. Your face feels red and warm. We have discussed what this is without concluding earlier. Cant be hct as mr BB suggested. Cause i dont think my hct raised 6 points in one week. Nor BP. My bp was 120/80 precycle and it cant elevate that fast. Guess its not so dangerous though. Even if its uncomfortable as fukk. And stairs already get me windy. Even on cardarine. But this is not dangerous too acourding to my studies.

**< <Samson> >** · 11-15-2016, 10:18 AM

Didn't work so well for me

I thought it'd be cool to add in 50mg a day of Balkan dBol wile running 300mg a week of tren - yup, I started milking like a cow. It took about 3 months to completely shake

**Mr.BB** · 11-15-2016, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

Go for acetate. Leaves the body quick if something goes wrong. The best there is. I always get the nasty faceside from it. Your face feels red and warm. We have discussed what this is without concluding earlier. Cant be hct as mr BB suggested. Cause i dont think my hct raised 6 points in one week. Nor BP. My bp was 120/80 precycle and it cant elevate that fast. Guess its not so dangerous though. Even if its uncomfortable as fukk. And stairs already get me windy. Even on cardarine. But this is not dangerous too acourding to my studies.

Estrogen? Peri menopause women get this red warm face from hormones.

**AR's King Silabolin** · 11-15-2016, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Estrogen? Peri menopause women get this red warm face from hormones.

No man...my e2 was border line low when i started the test and i do my AIs and tren is not the worsest converter.

Tren is a mysterious drug, u also have tren cough and the out of breath thing. And no good cause explanation.
Wasnt it developted just for putting on max beef on bulls weeks before slaugthering? Scary stuff, guess the developers saw no reason in paying attention to possible sides then.

Samson, 50 mg is way too much when u run test and tren. And i guess u didnt use a DA either

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 11-15-2016, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

No man...my e2 was border line low when i started the test and i do my AIs and tren is not the worsest converter. Tren is a mysterious drug, u also have tren cough and the out of breath thing. And no good cause explanation. Wasnt it developted just for putting on max beef on bulls weeks before slaugthering? Scary stuff, guess the developers saw no reason in paying attention to possible sides then. Samson, 50 mg is way too much when u run test and tren. And i guess u didnt use a DA either

Tren is not the worst converter but d-bol can easily be the worst converter.

**Mr.BB** · 11-15-2016, 01:44 PM

Maybe its just the enhanced metabolism on tren

My grandmother used to say pink cheeks are sign of being healthy lol

**NACH3** · 11-15-2016, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

250-750 mg sustanon. Im on 500 now

I still do not get why you taper your test dose?! If anything your serum levels will gonup and down moreso, rather than having your serum levels steady with the same dose throughout... if your lean bulking(which tren is great for imo) and your running a DA and have E2 & prolactin in check - I've ran drol at 100mgs/day(pulsed with no issues)...

**TestoSuper** · 11-15-2016, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

Go for acetate. Leaves the body quick if something goes wrong. The best there is. I always get the nasty faceside from it. Your face feels red and warm. We have discussed what this is without concluding earlier. Cant be hct as mr BB suggested. Cause i dont think my hct raised 6 points in one week. Nor BP. My bp was 120/80 precycle and it cant elevate that fast. Guess its not so dangerous though. Even if its uncomfortable as fukk. And stairs already get me windy. Even on cardarine. But this is not dangerous too acourding to my studies.

you I know that acetate is the best form ... I think I will use that surely.
Is red face only side? I would not worry for it if the pressure is ok ... maybe it's a little enhanced microcirculation under the skin ..

**AR's King Silabolin** · 11-15-2016, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

I still do not get why you taper your test dose?! If anything your serum levels will gonup and down moreso, rather than having your serum levels steady with the same dose throughout... if your lean bulking(which tren is great for imo) and your running a DA and have E2 & prolactin in check - I've ran drol at 100mgs/day(pulsed with no issues)...

Because RP says it will cut it. And he has tried everything there is for 35 years.
I agree. Body get used to everything. Protein, reps, exercises. U need to shock the body. I think this point is more important than keeping steady bloodvalues. If u do 500 mg for 12 weeks the body just laughs at you the last six weeks. I never grew after week 5-6. Because of this.
But in this run i will have massive gains in all 7 weeks. As RP in his bigger by the day show.

**Vash the Stampede** · 11-15-2016, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

Because RP says it will cut it. And he has tried everything there is for 35 years.
I agree. Body get used to everything. Protein, reps, exercises. U need to shock the body. I think this point is more important than keeping steady bloodvalues. If u do 500 mg for 12 weeks the body just laughs at you the last six weeks. I never grew after week 5-6. Because of this.
But in this run i will have massive gains in all 7 weeks. As RP in his bigger by the day show.

Dick riding Rich Piana. That speaks volumes about your "knowledge"

**AR's King Silabolin** · 11-15-2016, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Maybe its just the enhanced metabolism on tren

My grandmother used to say pink cheeks are sign of being healthy lol

U have just been on tren. U dont feel hot sensation in the face?

**Mr.BB** · 11-15-2016, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

U have just been on tren. U dont feel hot sensation in the face?

No, cant specifically associate it with tren , or with anything, but when my estrogen goes high my face becomes rounder.

Dont agree with what you guys say about tren non converting a lot, I think it accelerate the rate other compounds aromatize... or something like that, as I feel e2 effects (and shows on bw) when on tren and test. With last cycle only used nebido base, didnt need AI (only used a few days).

**AR's King Silabolin** · 11-15-2016, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

No, cant specifically associate it with tren , or with anything, but when my estrogen goes high my face becomes rounder.

Dont agree with what you guys say about tren non converting a lot, I think it accelerate the rate other compounds aromatize... or something like that, as I feel e2 effects (and shows on bw) when on tren and test. With last cycle only used nebido base, didnt need AI (only used a few days).

It will reinforce the bad effects from elevated e2 due to its progestine nature.
Dont think it accelerate others conversation.
Increased methabolism from tren?..yeah?...been reading a lot from experts saying its a myth that tren leans u out. Maybe its something to it after all. I think i look a lot leaner now inmy second week introducing tren. Week one was just sus mast and dbol .

**hammerheart** · 11-15-2016, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

U have just been on tren. U dont feel hot sensation in the face?

I get flushed skin. It's especially noticeable when I get up from bed. I'm only at 100mg TA weekly.

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

No, cant specifically associate it with tren , or with anything, but when my estrogen goes high my face becomes rounder.

Dont agree with what you guys say about tren non converting a lot, I think it accelerate the rate other compounds aromatize... or something like that, as I feel e2 effects (and shows on bw) when on tren and test. With last cycle only used nebido base, didnt need AI (only used a few days).

On a theoretical basis, whilst on TRT having other compounds playing with binding proteins can affect free T levels and also elevate E2. It's pretty different from cycling where things are already "saturated".

Progesterone is supposed to inhibit both 5-AR and aromatase.

**Obs** · 11-15-2016, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

Man im 8 days in and im not kidding, the mirror changes day by day. Im totally different know than one week ago.
Im on 300 tren a and 20 mg dbol with the test and i have ever never felt anything like this. Ok, dbol/tren is the harshest there is but i think its worth it. Trying to eat healthy and doing the rigth supps.
I think 7 weeks are enough cause i already feel it bad in my face.
But every workout is christmas and i think i got myself a new favourite stack.

It's in the mail dbol tren and test cyp. Got deca too. I wont be running it this time though.

**Mr.BB** · 11-15-2016, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

It will reinforce the bad effects from elevated e2 due to its progestine nature.
Dont think it accelerate others conversation.
Increased methabolism from tren?..yeah?...been reading a lot from experts saying its a myth that tren leans u out. Maybe its something to it after all. I think i look a lot leaner now inmy second week introducing tren. Week one was just sus mast and dbol.

Increased temperature and sweating is no myth. Need better definition of higher metabolism??

Personally I cant bulk on tren , no matter what I eat just lean out and/or recomp.

**hammerheart** · 11-15-2016, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Increased temperature and sweating is no myth. Need better definition of higher metabolism??

Personally I cant bulk on tren, no matter what I eat just lean out and/or recomp.

Progesterone acting on the temp centers in the hypothalamus is enough for that, sure it will boost calorie expenditure but is not enough to speak of increased metabolism. I do suspect though it can enhance thyroid hormone uptake. That could also explain the lowering of T3 from the Tren .

**AR's King Silabolin** · 11-15-2016, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

I get flushed skin. It's especially noticeable when I get up from bed. I'm only at 100mg TA weekly.

On a theoretical basis, whilst on TRT having other compounds playing with binding proteins can affect free T levels and also elevate E2. It's pretty different from cycling where things are already "saturated".

Progesterone is supposed to inhibit both 5-AR and aromatase.

Ok. Im only doing tren a 4-5 weeks. 300 mg. I take a two week tren pause in the middle of the cycle. Switches to masteron p.
Guess that will reinforce the egfect of tren at week 6 and 7 without upping the dose.

**Ashop** · 11-15-2016, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

Man im 8 days in and im not kidding, the mirror changes day by day. Im totally different know than one week ago.
Im on 300 tren a and 20 mg dbol with the test and i have ever never felt anything like this. Ok, dbol/tren is the harshest there is but i think its worth it. Trying to eat healthy and doing the rigth supps.
I think 7 weeks are enough cause i already feel it bad in my face.
But every workout is christmas and i think i got myself a new favourite stack.

One of my personal faves is TREN/ANADROL /TEST
Similar to as you mention, I can see changes in the mirror almost daily with that stack.

**numbere** · 11-15-2016, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by ALIN

One of my personal faves is TREN /ANADROL /TEST
Similar to as you mention, I can see changes in the mirror almost daily with that stack.

You beat me to it, I was going to write the same thing lol.

**AR's King Silabolin** · 11-16-2016, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by numbere

You beat me to it, I was going to write the same thing lol.

Is this a new call out on me and Rich or are you guys smart enough to let go.
Whatever your intention were. I see changes day by day. I was hoping for a drol/bol mix too, but couldnt get my hands on anadrol this time. But i guess dianabol only will cut it also.

**numbere** · 11-16-2016, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

Is this a new call out on me and Rich or are you guys smart enough to let go.
Whatever your intention were. I see changes day by day. I was hoping for a drol/bol mix too, but couldnt get my hands on anadrol this time. But i guess dianabol only will cut it also.

Relax Sil, not everything is an attack on you and Rich.

We're just having a conversation about favorite stacks.