How high are your testosterone levels when on cycle?

**saucerking** · 11-18-2016, 12:25 AM

How high are your test levels when on cycle? For example: 3000 ng/dL? 4000 ng/dL?

How high should they be?

**Faacus** · 11-18-2016, 07:56 AM

4000 with 600 mg weekly (test e)

**saucerking** · 11-18-2016, 11:34 AM

Anyone else? Would like some more answers for comparison

**numbere** · 11-18-2016, 11:47 AM

It depends how much test you take and when you test in regard to pinning.

500mg/week of test e/c should get you around 2500-3500 ng/d TT.

**saucerking** · 11-19-2016, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by numbere

It depends how much test you take and when you test in regard to pinning.

500mg/week of test e/c should get you around 2500-3500 ng/d TT.

I see. So would higher test levels mean more gains?

**numbere** · 11-19-2016, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by saucerking

I see. So would higher test levels mean more gains?

Unfortunately higher test does not mean more gains.

If that were the case you'd see many more guys taking huge doses of test.

You quickly reach a point of diminishing returns when using amounts over 600-750mg/week.

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From my experience you'll put on much more muscle tissue if you reduce your bf to as low as possible before beginning your cycle compared to using more gear with a bf in the mid to upper teens.

Nutrient partitioning is the body's ability to shuttle nutrients towards building muscle tissue or storing those calories as fat.

One can influence how these nutrients are used by manipulating their current body fat.

When body fat is low nutrient partitioning is influenced towards building muscle tissue and has been scientifically proven by Forbe's Theory.

When my free time increases I plan on writing an in depth thread on this subject.

**gymffiti** · 11-19-2016, 04:29 AM

This maybe of help.

From what I've read, variables aside, this seems fairly accurate

How high are your testosterone levels when on cycle?-test-scale.png

Obviously I stand to be corrected by the vets

**numbere** · 11-19-2016, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by gymffiti

This maybe of help.

From what I've read, variables aside, this seems fairly accurate

Obviously I stand to be corrected by the vets

The study you took that graph from was an interesting read.

Giving 18-35 year old men 25-600mg of test for 16 weeks with no e2 blood work, AI or mention of PCT seems unethical for a study done in 2001.

The TT numbers are lower than what members usually report here because they had labs 7 days after their last pin.

Thought it was funny that they cited Forbes, the same researcher I mentioned in my previous post.