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    Help me stack this cycle, BRAINTEASER !!!

    Hi board,
    I was wondering if some experienced juice users could have a look at my cycle and comment/criticise it. This would be my third cycle (my first two, really werenít that great). Iím looking for pure bulk

    Week 1: Sus250mg Primo100mg Deca200mg
    Week 2: Sus250mg Primo100mg Deca200mg Diana20mgED (Nolv10mgED)
    Week 3: Sus250mg Primo100mg Deca200mg Diana20mgED (Nolv10mgED)
    Week 4: Sus250mg Primo100mg Deca150mg Diana10mgEOD Anadrol50EOD (Nolv20mgED)
    Week 5: Sus500mg Primo200mg Deca150mg Diana20mgEOD Anadrol50EOD (Nolv20mgED)
    Week 6: Sus500mg Primo100mg Deca200mg Diana10mgEOD (Nolv10mgED)
    Week 7: Sus250mg Primo100mg Deca300mg (Nolv10mgED)
    Week 8: Sus250mg Primo100mg Deca200mg (Nolv10mgED)
    Week 9: Sus250mg Primo100mg Deca200mg (Nolv10mgEOD)
    Week10: Sus250mg Primo100mg Deca200mg (Nolv10mgEOD)

    Week12: Clomid100mgED
    Week13: Clomid50mgED
    Week14: Clomid50mgED
    Week15: Clomid50mgEOD


    I would like to have stronger doses of everything but I canít afford it.
    Iím open to all suggestions/alterations as long as theyíre not too pricey.

    My logic is :
    I lowered the deca at weeks 4 & 5 because I didnít want it aromizing to progest with the anadrol . I wanted week 5 to be the peek. I only did alphas for 5 weeks. Deca is just for my joints, for some reason I have never made good gains off it - even at 500mg a week.

    Few Questions :
    I know there isn't too much nolvadex in this cycle but this is all I have; should I still proceed or get more nolv first?
    Is it necessary to run the nolv in week 1 before unwanted androgenic symptoms kick in?
    Also will 20mg of Nolv a week protect against the high progest levels around week 4 & 5?
    Will 2.5mg of finastride(proscar/propecia) a day protect me against hair loss in this cycle?


    Please Help, Thanks people!!

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    this can definitely use some tweaking...

    first, sust at 250mg is going to do nothing.

    altering the deca dosages is also not going to do anything either.

    start the dbol in week one, not week 2. also, switching dbol to drol is going to be a different transition than you may be thinking. two completely different drugs and not enough time running each to see the full benefit.

    i would run a different anti-e throughout this cycle other than just nolva. liquid e's are so cheap that you should should be able to afford some femara or ldex to really help water retention and estrogen from binding.

    im not too sure on the hair loss issue, but running any 17aa is going to be hard on the hair.

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    hmm, what levels of sus to you suggest.
    Should i run the dbol first or the anadrol first?, should i leave space in the middle of the 2 so my liver values go back to normal?
    What specificly should i change, can anybody help me rewrite it?
    Thanks

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    wks 1-10 500mg Sust/wk
    wks 1-10 300mg Deca /wk


    The orals you could do a few ways

    wks 1-6 35mg Dbol ED
    or wks 1-4 50mg Drol ED 5-6 35mg Dbol
    or even wks 1-5 25mg Drol ED + 20mg Dbol ED

    Whatever you want really.

    Id start anti-es from the begining.

    I recomend 25mg ARomasin E3D + 5-10mg Nolva

    But nolva alone..10-20mg ED

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    I need to get the cycle killer so I know what to order for it, any more suggestions?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by daem
    im not too sure on the hair loss issue, but running any 17aa is going to be hard on the hair.
    Just b/c orals are 17aa, doesnt necessarily mean they are harsh on the hair line. Take anavar for example. The main concern with hairloss is the DHT. Winstrol , halo, dbol , drol etc for the most part effect ones DHT in the body.
    2.5mg ed of finasteride would be overkill. Take 1mg ed. But realize that once you stop taking it, all is lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 956Vette
    Just b/c orals are 17aa, doesnt necessarily mean they are harsh on the hair line.
    very true, the var is a great example...i overlooked it when i was thinking about it.

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    Sorry people, but is it worth it running primobolan in this cycle?
    Will it make much difference to my gains?
    Would it be better to just increase my deca ?
    At what dose is primobolan usually ran at to make decent gains?

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