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Thread: battling this gyno

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    battling this gyno

    Hey boys it's been awhile. Hope all of u are doing good. Having a damn problem right now. So in April I started a cycle
    Test c 400mg
    Deca 400mg
    Dbol 50mg (6 weeks)
    12 weeks

    Adex 1mg eod
    .5 cabar

    I started to develop lumps under my nipple and some tenderness. I got off of the Dbol it still was tender then I got off the Deca and it when away. No had any dick problem for the prolactin so I didn't think it could be from that. Once I got off Deca my nipple stopped hurting and when down.

    Cruised

    I started this cycle Oct 10
    Test c 250mg ew
    Test p 400mg ew
    Tren 400mg
    Winny 50mg
    Provin 50mg

    1mg Adex
    .5 cabar

    My nipple are getting more swollen and sore. My Adex and cabar is from the pharmacy. The bumps under my nipple seem to be getting bigger. I don't know what to do. My e2 levels seem to be in order (no test results) just from last cycles. No bloating not emotional no acne. My prolactin is in check because my dick is like a pole.

    What do u guys think it could be and what could I do. Could they just be getting swollen when on cycle then go down afterwards? Like the first cycle.

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    I would start taking 10-20 mg ed of nolva and that should block the estrogen at the receptors and allow you to continue the cycle...they shouldn't get any bigger while on and hopefully shrink in pct...in my opinion gyno never really goes away but I'm not in the medical field so I don't know that for fact...my 2 cents
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    i just realized you don't pct so scratch the pct part...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tice1212 View Post
    Hey boys it's been awhile. Hope all of u are doing good. Having a damn problem right now. So in April I started a cycle
    Test c 400mg
    Deca 400mg
    Dbol 50mg (6 weeks)
    12 weeks

    Adex 1mg eod
    .5 cabar

    I started to develop lumps under my nipple and some tenderness. I got off of the Dbol it still was tender then I got off the Deca and it when away. No had any dick problem for the prolactin so I didn't think it could be from that. Once I got off Deca my nipple stopped hurting and when down.

    Cruised

    I started this cycle Oct 10
    Test c 250mg ew
    Test p 400mg ew
    Tren 400mg
    Winny 50mg
    Provin 50mg

    1mg Adex
    .5 cabar

    My nipple are getting more swollen and sore. My Adex and cabar is from the pharmacy. The bumps under my nipple seem to be getting bigger. I don't know what to do. My e2 levels seem to be in order (no test results) just from last cycles. No bloating not emotional no acne. My prolactin is in check because my dick is like a pole.

    What do u guys think it could be and what could I do. Could they just be getting swollen when on cycle then go down afterwards? Like the first cycle.
    Have you got a Legit source of caber and adex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus G View Post
    Have you got a Legit source of caber and adex?
    hi...you cant ask for a source on the open board its against the rules...

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    Tice why not have a sensitive e2 and prolactin assay?

    Both tests together from discounted labs should be around $90.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettoboyd View Post
    I would start taking 10-20 mg ed of nolva and that should block the estrogen at the receptors and allow you to continue the cycle...they shouldn't get any bigger while on and hopefully shrink in pct...in my opinion gyno never really goes away but I'm not in the medical field so I don't know that for fact...my 2 cents
    Yeah that was I was thinking of doing. Was take 20mg of nolva. What about the adex do u feel like that's a good a.i. some people like other a.i.'s but I haven't used any before. Thanks for the comment brother
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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    Tice why not have a sensitive e2 and prolactin assay?

    Both tests together from discounted labs should be around $90.
    I live in NJ. Don't I need a script for the test to be ran bro? I would love to see where my numbers are at. (And yes I know there is going to be people on here that say "u shouldn't run cycle without blood work" I know already.... I'm thinking I have very sensitive e2 levels just because I made sure my a.i. and prolactin meds were was legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tice1212 View Post
    I live in NJ. Don't I need a script for the test to be ran bro? I would love to see where my numbers are at. (And yes I know there is going to be people on here that say "u shouldn't run cycle without blood work" I know already.... I'm thinking I have very sensitive e2 levels just because I made sure my a.i. and prolactin meds were was legit.
    I believe you need a script for bw in NJ.

    You could always cross state lines for the tests.

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    Long time no see Tice!

    Get some nolva or raloxifene on it, like ghettoboyd advised.

    I have exactly same from tren with e2 and prolactin in check. I think its progesterone, not sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    I have exactly same from tren with e2 and prolactin in check. I think its progesterone, not sure.
    That makes three of us:/

    I think it's a side effect of using 19 nors numerous times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    Tice why not have a sensitive e2 and prolactin assay?

    Both tests together from discounted labs should be around $90.
    Step 1 above. Always have nolva on hand. Nothing wrong with low dose nolva on cycle if prone to gyno issues.
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    I wasn't asking for a sorce I was asking if he had a Legit caber and adex

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    That makes three of us:/

    I think it's a side effect of using 19 nors numerous times.
    Make it four, even with high PRL I never had swollen, puffy nipples as on Tren . It was mild enough to go away on its own after cessation btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettoboyd View Post
    hi...you cant ask for a source on the open board its against the rules...
    Meaning the reason he could be having all these problems might be because he's caber and adex might not be genuine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus G View Post
    Meaning the reason he could be having all these problems might be because he's caber and adex might not be genuine.
    my bad brother it sounded like you where asking for a source...carry on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post

    That makes three of us:/

    I think it's a side effect of using 19 nors numerous times.
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    Long time no see Tice!

    Get some nolva or raloxifene on it, like ghettoboyd advised.

    I have exactly same from tren with e2 and prolactin in check. I think its progesterone, not sure.
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    Make it four, even with high PRL I never had swollen, puffy nipples as on Tren. It was mild enough to go away on its own after cessation btw.
    Yeah I guess I'm just prone and to be honest pretty pissed. I'm a huge believe in making sure u have everything u need so side effects like this happen. Sucks because no matter how shredded or big you are u still have tits :-/
    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post

    Step 1 above. Always have nolva on hand. Nothing wrong with low dose nolva on cycle if prone to gyno issues.
    Yeah bro I just ordered some today. Should be here in 3 days. I took 1mg of cabar last night before is that bad?
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus G View Post
    I wasn't asking for a sorce I was asking if he had a Legit caber and adex
    Yeah bro I made sure I got pharmacy grade bro
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    You can also try some andractim gel to apply on nips, it will help to some extent.
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    Blood test would be the only way to truly know whats going on inside you.

    Would you be up for surgery?
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    You'll be fine but no need for that much caber at one time. Jump on the nolva when it comes in.
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    Disregard this if i am wrong, but as per "nipple" do you mean it's only on one side or both? Had a similar episode myself and without BW you can't really be 100% sure... if two than i'd do the above and run some nolva, and keep running the a.i obviously, wouldn't go above 1 myself keep up posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaydenn View Post
    Disregard this if i am wrong, but as per "nipple" do you mean it's only on one side or both? Had a similar episode myself and without BW you can't really be 100% sure... if two than i'd do the above and run some nolva, and keep running the a.i obviously, wouldn't go above 1 myself keep up posted.
    Could a week of Nolva help?

    Or whole cycle?

    And how much and frequency?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Could a week of Nolva help?

    Or whole cycle?

    And how much and frequency?
    Just from what I read and find that works for me, but everybody is different.

    "40mg every day for a week and then 20mg a day until its gone."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic View Post
    Blood test would be the only way to truly know whats going on inside you.

    Would you be up for surgery?
    I found a surgeon to do it for $3500.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaydenn View Post
    Disregard this if i am wrong, but as per "nipple" do you mean it's only on one side or both? Had a similar episode myself and without BW you can't really be 100% sure... if two than i'd do the above and run some nolva, and keep running the a.i obviously, wouldn't go above 1 myself keep up posted.
    It is both nipples brother.
    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    You'll be fine but no need for that much caber at one time. Jump on the nolva when it comes in.
    Will do boss. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Could a week of Nolva help?

    Or whole cycle?

    And how much and frequency?
    10mg ed or 20mg eod day is enough for gyno prevention (not reversal)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaydenn View Post
    Just from what I read and find that works for me, but everybody is different.

    "40mg every day for a week and then 20mg a day until its gone."
    I ran 40mg ED for 1week, then 20mg ED for 2 more weeks, helped big time, however small issue seemed to be to begin with its clear whats to come if not treated right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    10mg ed or 20mg eod day is enough for gyno prevention (not reversal)
    I will second on this too. while 40 / 20 / 20 worked, and I believe it was too much, almost 5 days later I was feeling issues were gone but as a precaution I was still taking 20mg for another 2weeks, just goes to show that 20 / 10 / 10 protocol would have been perfect also.

    I too ran tiny amount of aromasin like 6.25mg/week (but my e2 issues were not due to prolactin, it was HCG influenced rapid E2 spike)

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    Good morning boys. A little update on the gyno issue.
    So I started the novla on wed at 40mg ED. nipples stop hurting. And my sound weird but the puffiness has went down a little. So thank you all for the info

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