E2 - PRL values during cycle

**TestoSuper** · 12-10-2016, 12:25 PM

Hallo Guys,
last week I did bloodwork to check estradiol and prolactin, result:
E2 < 5 range: 26 - 61
PRL 7.59 range 4.04 - 15.20 (very good I took caber before cycle because in september the value was 20.88)

I'm cicling 750 mg Test E / week with 250 ui HCG 2 x week now, endend Dbol 2 weeks ago.
I'm taking adex at 0.25 mg 3 x week only from the start, and I've Estradiol so low...
Is it normal??

I'm thinking of lower the dosage of Arimidex ...
can you give me your opinion??

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 12-10-2016, 04:38 PM

Your test could be bunk.
Did you get your testosterone tested?

**TestoSuper** · 12-10-2016, 05:33 PM

no, sincerely I've not tested my testosterone because I believe that the value should be high and distorted by 750 mg/week i'm taking...
what does "could be bunk" mean?

**Mr.BB** · 12-10-2016, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by TestoSuper

no, sincerely I've not tested my testosterone because I believe that the value should be high and distorted by 750 mg/week i'm taking...
what does "could be bunk" mean?

Bunk

Used to describe something shitty.

Source: Urban Dictionary

**hammerheart** · 12-10-2016, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by TestoSuper

no, sincerely I've not tested my testosterone because I believe that the value should be high and distorted by 750 mg/week i'm taking...
what does "could be bunk" mean?

Fake, underdosed.

You should of have got it checked.

Your testes too don't seem to pull much of E2 either, AI shouldn't affect them.

PRL is great, caber is doing its work.

**TestoSuper** · 12-10-2016, 05:46 PM

ok, so maybe my British Dragon Test Enanthate is a fake ??
Has anyone had experience with this brand?
I hope not, I've always had great original stuff and I gained about 11 kg until now!!
But you have made me doubt, then certainly I will test my testosterone next week!

**TestoSuper** · 12-10-2016, 06:03 PM

This is my Test E

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**Jonbana** · 12-10-2016, 07:32 PM

hard to tell BRO .

if you don't feel it than its bunked ..... you strength and everything should be threw the roof if its not than you have a problem at that dose

**jstone** · 12-10-2016, 08:35 PM

British dragon was good years ago. Now its just a ugl trying to sell products based off of the old reputation. I personally wouldn't trust british dragon products anymore than anyother ugl.

**TestoSuper** · 12-11-2016, 05:37 AM

ok, tomorrow morning I will test my testosterone .
In my lab the range is 2-49 - 8.36, in your opinion, what should be my value if my gear was real?
It should be absolutely at the maximum value, right?

**numbere** · 12-11-2016, 05:58 AM

500mg a week should put you around you 25-35ng/ml.

So 750mg should put you somewhere in the ballpark of 45ng/ml.

When I did my first cycle of 600mg/week of test e I was just over 40ng/ml.

**TestoSuper** · 12-11-2016, 06:23 AM

Originally Posted by numbere

500mg a week should put you around you 25-35ng/ml.

So 750mg should put you somewhere in the ballpark of 45ng/ml.

When I did my first cycle of 600mg/week of test e I was just over 40ng/ml.

ok, very good, so I should have a similar value .. tomorrow I will know.
This will be the test that will tell me if I have to change my supplier or not!

anyway, just in case my gear was fake, for the last 4 weeks of this cycle could I to continue with Test prop 100mg EOD? because I will have it of pharmaceutical grade (purchased in legal pharmacie) ... so I would conclude with this and would start before the PCT... I've gained about 22 pound until now, so I'm satisfied with this...

**Mr.BB** · 12-11-2016, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by numbere

500mg a week should put you around you 25-35ng/ml.

So 750mg should put you somewhere in the ballpark of 45ng/ml.

When I did my first cycle of 600mg/week of test e I was just over 40ng/ml.

This values vary a lot from person to person, and specially the time from last shot. It will be highest 24h after pin, 48h it will be much lower (for enanthate test).

**TestoSuper** · 12-12-2016, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by numbere

500mg a week should put you around you 25-35ng/ml.

So 750mg should put you somewhere in the ballpark of 45ng/ml.

When I did my first cycle of 600mg/week of test e I was just over 40ng/ml.

ok I've tested the value this morning,
result: 7.53 ng/ml range 2.49 - 8.36

So, must I therefore conclude that my gear is fake ?? or maybe underdosed?
It's almost unbelievable for me, I gained over 20 pounds in 5 weeks ...(maybe due to Dbol only???)
What do you advise me at this point?
I have Test Propionate of pharmaceutical grade ... I 'm planning to finish last 4 weeks with this... is this a good idea in your opinion?

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 12-12-2016, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by TestoSuper

ok I've tested the value this morning, result: 7.53 ng/ml range 2.49 - 8.36 So, must I therefore conclude that my gear is fake ?? or maybe underdosed? It's almost unbelievable for me, I gained over 20 pounds in 5 weeks ...(maybe due to Dbol only???) What do you advise me at this point? I have Test Propionate of pharmaceutical grade ... I 'm planning to finish last 4 weeks with this... is this a good idea in your opinion?

Your test is fake.
You put on weight from the dbol . Dbol is notorious for rapid water weight gain.

I wouldn't run the prop.

Just pct and get enough real AAS to do a full cycle.

**hammerheart** · 12-12-2016, 08:21 AM

Did you consider the option you might just be a good responder to ana?

**TestoSuper** · 12-12-2016, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog

Your test is fake.
You put on weight from the dbol . Dbol is notorious for rapid water weight gain.

I wouldn't run the prop.

Just pct and get enough real AAS to do a full cycle.

Fuking British Dragon... ok thanks for your advice.
Even last cycle the strange thing is that just finished Dbol my progress suddenly stop .. Now I have the explanation of everything.

**TestoSuper** · 12-12-2016, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

Did you consider the option you might just be a good responder to ana?

Yes I made this consideration... but even last cycle the strange thing is that just finished Dbol my progress suddenly stop .. Now I have the explanation of everything... every gain is from British Dispensary Dbol (and Organon Deca last year)
Fuking British Dragon..

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 12-12-2016, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

Did you consider the option you might just be a good responder to ana?

He is taking 750mg per week of testosterone .
There is no way in hell his test levels would be in normal range.
He should test maybe 5 times the high end of the range.

**Mr.BB** · 12-12-2016, 09:19 AM

You should confront the source with this bloodwork.

**hammerheart** · 12-12-2016, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog

He is taking 750mg per week of testosterone .
There is no way in hell his test levels would be in normal range.
He should test maybe 5 times the high end of the range.

Indeed they should, I misread the numbers.

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

You should confront the source with this bloodwork.

This.

Honestly I never heard anything good about this particular UGL in recent times.

**almostgone** · 12-12-2016, 10:53 AM

The old BD brand has been knocked off and faked for quite some time now. Generally, the quality is sub-par at best. Only occasionally do I hear of good results from it.

**TestoSuper** · 12-12-2016, 02:08 PM

Ok, I stop the cycle, I will take HCG only for two weeks from now, then I start a good PCT x 4 weeks.

3 months off and I will restart a new cycle in May.

**numbere** · 12-12-2016, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by TestoSuper

Ok, I stop the cycle, I will take HCG only for two weeks from now, then I start a good PCT x 4 weeks.

3 months off and I will restart a new cycle in May.

Sorry to hear about your bad gear.

If I were in your position I wouldn't wait 2 weeks before beginning PCT.

Judging by your test results you were pinning straight MCT oil.

Personally I'd begin PCT in 3-5 days.

**TestoSuper** · 12-12-2016, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by numbere

Sorry to hear about your bad gear.

If I were in your position I wouldn't wait 2 weeks before beginning PCT.

Judging by your test results you were pinning straight MCT oil.

Personally I'd begin PCT in 3-5 days.

Sincerely I was never convinced about the multidose vials, but there were good prices on this brand so I bought ..
I will have to return to the good old 1 ml ampoules. Next year I think I will go with Sust 250 / 1 ml ampoule.

Ok thanks for your advice, I will consider to start PCT in a few days.