Pinning advice after BIG rookie mistake

**Coffeehead** · 12-14-2016, 07:05 AM

So I clearly suck at pinning any part other than my quads. I just can't seem to get my injecting hand at a good enough angle to inject steadily. With quads, I can use both hands and maneuver the pin to where I can successfully inject. It's quite easy actually - I know the quads are not the most popular spot and I see a lot about how quads hurt like hell, but I honestly have not had any of those problems. Where I have had problems have been my shoulders, and most notably my glutes.

So I did my 3rd pin in the glute last week. I just received a new 3ML syringe so it was a little bigger than I had been using. I inserted the need just fine, injected without any significant discomfort, but when I pulled out THE PIN WAS DAMN NEAR BENT AT A 90 DEGREE ANGLE. (facepalm)

"Oh Fuk, that will hurt like hell and leave a mark" was running through my head.

It took 3 days for the soreness to subside. No bruising/swelling, but hot damn that was a poor pin job! I was a mess, and pinned later that day a small amount in my left quad to get over the fact that I butchered my last pin job. Sort of a confidence booster.

Now my shoulders get sore much easier for nothing. Very easy to get to, but again I have to 1-hand the pin. I didn't butcher the muscle like I did in my arse, but it seems injecting there doesn't sit well with me.

Any suggestions for alternate locations, or tips to pin with more precision? Looking for any suggestions since I know site rotation is vital and I don't want to treat my quads like a pin cushion every time I need to inject.

If it's relevant, I'm injecting Test-E, about 200-300mg each time.

**DHew** · 12-14-2016, 07:17 AM

Go more for the outer glute, upper half. Were you trying to pin near your ass crack or what?

**Jonbana** · 12-14-2016, 07:35 AM

Sounds like you are darting the pin into the muscle..... slow and steady touch the skin and slowly push in do not dart the needle in or anything maybe you hit the bone to bend the pin..

**Coffeehead** · 12-14-2016, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by DHew

Go more for the outer glute, upper half. Were you trying to pin near your ass crack or what?

Upper outer quadrant. Definitely not near the ass crack – I just can't get my hand angled into a position where I can press the plunger without naturally tilting my hand back to a comfortable position. I don't even notice it though, which is probably the problem

Originally Posted by Jonbana

Sounds like you are darting the pin into the muscle..... slow and steady touch the skin and slowly push in do not dart the needle in or anything maybe you hit the bone to bend the pin..

Negative – always slow and steady

**DHew** · 12-14-2016, 01:21 PM

I'm not trying to be a prick, but this is just such a simple thing to do that there really isn't anything specific you need to work on other than just doing it. Needles aren't for everyone on the other hand. Might be best you just stay away.

**Coffeehead** · 12-14-2016, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by DHew

I'm not trying to be a prick, but this is just such a simple thing to do that there really isn't anything specific you need to work on other than just doing it. Needles aren't for everyone on the other hand. Might be best you just stay away.

Not a prick at all, although your logic is a bit suspect. I can easily pin quads, and even shoulders (get a bit more pip in shoulders thus my preference to pin quads)

...but because I haven't figured out how to pin glutes well enough after thee attempts with only one big pin snafu, I should give up?

Sounds like legit advice.

**DHew** · 12-14-2016, 02:50 PM

If you are so bad at injections that you bend your pin to a 90degree angle when pinning the number one newbie pin spot, then yes, maybe you should consider giving it up before you do something very, very bad to yourself.

Remove the emotion from your thought process. It will do nothing but cause problems.

**jstone** · 12-14-2016, 03:57 PM

Look up ventroglute and dorsogluteal. These spots may be much easier for you to hit and it will add some spots into the rotation. You could also do traps, bis, tris, or trest.

**Coffeehead** · 12-14-2016, 04:07 PM

I appreciate honesty bro, but in my experience the glute is definitely not the easiest. So as for it being the number one location to pin for newbs, I guess that's all subjective. I knew quads and shoulders were going to be easier to pin before I even did my first pin. My arm simply doesn't bend that easily behind my back, and once the pin is in it's hard to manipulate my hand to aspirate and plunge with one hand. It's also not like you can the see angle in which the pin is inserted while injecting. To me it's not exactly an ideal way for me to inject.

Here's an idea – I'll just pin other locations that I've had success with, and perhaps someone can provide recommendations on what other body parts they consider ideal besides quads and shoulders.

I'm not giving up because of one bad pin. I'm sure I'm not the first, nor will be the last to screw up.

**Coffeehead** · 12-14-2016, 04:08 PM

Thanks Jstone. Appreciate the feedback bro.

**TheTaxMan** · 12-14-2016, 04:41 PM

Keep watching videos, theres loads out there

you will get it right, i only ever injected in my quad once and my leg shot in the air fully tensed (must have hit a nerve) ive never tried quads again after that experience

Always use my shoulders, but too high and its a problem, terrible pip for almost a week, im glad i have tattoos though, i know exactly where to hit in my delts

Glutes is a decent shot but im pretty unfexible and find it hard to reach around without shaking etc

If quads are your choice, just keep watching vids

When you get it right youl remember exactly where to go

Be careful though, dont want to be snapping needles! The key is not to worry/stress and try to relax, pinning when nervous or with flexed/strained muscle is more likely problematic

**Coffeehead** · 12-14-2016, 07:45 PM

Appreciate the feedback TTM. I'll look into some vids and see if there is an easier way. Maybe I'm just complicating it and there is an easier method to getting the right angle.

**Red Bastard** · 12-15-2016, 01:28 AM

I did the same thing, with my first ever pin. If you're using a mirror, don't!
For ventro glutes, I do some twisting stretches first, to limber up. Keep your eyes fixed on the position of the barrel, push slowly, and don't look away. Also, a 22 or 23 gauge needle makes those gluteus shots so much smoother...

**Jaydenn** · 12-15-2016, 03:22 AM

If you research site injections, it's pretty straight forward IMO.
1 different muscle a week, depending on your cycle and learn from bad experiences...

Use all clean and sterile and hopefully over a period of time you become better just like anything.

**Coffeehead** · 12-16-2016, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by jstone

Look up ventroglute and dorsogluteal. These spots may be much easier for you to hit and it will add some spots into the rotation. You could also do traps, bis, tris, or trest.

I just pinned the VG on my right side after identifying where the injection needed to be. Easy! I have no idea why I haven't been using the site the entire time. Depending on PIP, I may have to found my new favorite spot to pin. I was initially concerned because of the amount of muscle surrounding the hip – you can't help but think you're going to hit bone or something if you have not done this location before - but it went perfectly.

Thanks again jstone.