Natty ways to inc. test after Cycle/PCT

[Quester]

Many articles suggest that HIIT and sprints can increase testosterone and HGH production. What do ya'll think about that, and other natty methods, as a means of speeding recovery of natural test lvls after PCT?

[Obs]

I am interested as well. Not to change the subject, I am still on subject, does F@#&*?! or lack thereof boost natural levels? I have always wondered. If I dont do the deed for a week I am a vigorous SOB but if I do it all the time I am less intense in my day to day. I am certain it has a direct impact.

[Nephets]

I am interested as well. Not to change the subject, I am still on subject, does F@#&*?! or lack thereof boost natural levels? I have always wondered. If I dont do the deed for a week I am a vigorous SOB but if I do it all the time I am less intense in my day to day. I am certain it has a direct impact.

I always thought that was a myth.

[Obs]

I always thought that was a myth.

I figure there has to be a medium somewhere. I get so much as a bj and my whole body is pumped and my neck swells up like a buck in the rut. I am certain it affects test levels.

[Mr.BB]

I figure there has to be a medium somewhere. I get so much as a bj and my whole body is pumped and my neck swells up like a buck in the rut. I am certain it affects test levels.

It doesnt. Or shall I say not in the negative way, good sexual health is a promoteur for good general health, which of course includes the HPT axis.

[Obs]

I was hoping you would reply. Thats what I am asking though is does it help production? I just cant see how it wouldn't boost it at least temporarily?

[Mr.BB]

There are no studies (that I know of) showing a direct link between sexual activity and boosting or lowering testosterone.

[Obs]

There are no studies (that I know of) showing a direct link between sexual activity and boosting or lowering testosterone.

Damn. Wtf? This would be a fun study! I need funding.

[Mr.BB]

Damn. Wtf? This would be a fun study! I need funding.

Most religions would fund it, if you promised proof of lowering heheeh.... I know, not exactly what you are looking for.

[Obs]

I just copy and pasted: Ejaculations and Testosterone Research:
a) It’s known that short-term abstinence of 3 weeks can slightly increases testosterone levels in healthy human subjects, and one interesting study shows a significant 145% spike in T at the 7th day of abstinence (probably an evolutionary trigger to reproduce). However, long-term abstinence of 3 months has been shown to significantly reduce testosterone levels (note that this is only researched in men with erectile dysfunction, so the low T can be caused by something completely different).
b) In multiple human and animal studies, it has been noted that ejaculation does not acutely change serum testosterone levels, busting the common myth that ejaculation would rapidly deplete the body from testosterone (study, study, study, study).

c) Even though ejaculations seemingly have no significant effects on serum testosterone levels, they can (at least according to rodent studies) alter the body’s ability to utilize testosterone. It has been seen that after multiple ejaculations a sharp decline in androgen receptors takes place inside the hypothalamus, and not only that, but a sharp increase in estrogen receptors follows as well. One rodent study also found out that 1 or 2 ejaculations in short span of time increased androgen receptor activity in the body, while 4 or more ejaculations caused a significant drop in the activity of AR, suggesting that ejaculating yourself to “sexual exhaustion” might lower your body’s ability to utilize androgens.

d) While masturbation induced ejaculations don’t seem to have that big of an effect on serum testosterone levels, sex with a real person does. For example: In a study of 44 men visiting a sex club, it was noted that the men who actually had sex in the club with a woman, noted a nice 72% average increase in their testosterone levels, while the men who only watched the act, got a boost of 11%. In another study, it was seen that on couples, testosterone levels increase on the nights that they have sexual intercourse, but not on the nights that they don’t. One study also saw that older men who have more sex, have higher T levels. What causes this if ejaculations don’t? It could be the interpersonal touch, the female pheromones, the feelings of dominance, power, and even success…

[Nephets]

I'll ask my wife for a bj tonight for science...I'll let you know my findings.

[Obs]

I havent verified this yet but I have always figured there was a spike in test after sex and after a week of none. Thats just how I feel.

[Quester]

Ok, remember the boxing coaches telling their guys to abstain before the fight? There are many other examples where, without the benefit of science, colloquial wisdom ended up being correct.
Since ya'll have hijacked my thread, I'll follow the tangent and re-post a similar at a later date (I totally enjoy a good discussion).
Nephets: Is she a scientist?
It's become a theme for me that behavior is totally directed by evolution. Example: abstain from sex=become more aggressive, life rides one to hard=become aggressive (irritable) or move on, idle hands are the devils play things=bring meaning to your life (something is better than nothing).

[Obs]

Im sorry quester I respect your thread. I am seriously considering abstinence for 7 day intervals leading up to and during pct in an effort to recover faster. Pct starts soon for me.

[Quester]

NP brother, I appreciate a discussion which provokes thoughts that were unexpected.
Sounds like a good way to increase testosterone and yet not go nuts.
...party on Wayne!

[Couchlock]

Many articles suggest that HIIT and sprints can increase testosterone and HGH production. What do ya'll think about that, and other natty methods, as a means of speeding recovery of natural test lvls after PCT?

I did D-aspartic acid, for 3 months once, increased test from 380ng to 434.

But who knows what else it increased as far as hormones

[Quester]

D-aspartic acid:
D-Aspartic Acid Benefits and Side Effects
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4384294/ ...decreasing test may be because of increased DHT.
Side Effects of Aspartic Acid | LIVESTRONG.COM sounds like an androgen...still DHT enhancer.
there'smore but I'm to old and lazy to do all the footwork for inquisitive minds.

[wellshii]

I believe it does.
Reason. I was on a calorie deficit last year, keto diet, and sprinting HIIT to burn fat. Worked great.
Only thing I can remember being on that could raise my t levels was creatine. Keep in mind I was carb less and and 500-700 calories below TDEE(yes I went a bit too far )
My t levels came in at 714 total ng/dl, 97 pg/ml free. I believe it was the way I was training, since studies have shown my t levels should have been hindered with the deficit of carbs and calories.
Also after sprinting, I feel the same Horniness I do after a weight workout. One day I will go get my levels measured right after,just for the theory to be intact with my feelings even more so.

Also keep in mind some studies only show total test ,or vice versa. All 3 need to be examined ,since total when utilized,drops.

[Quester]

Yeah, this matches the impression I got from other reads. Not enough to be significant on its own (especially with regard to the rise in cortisol) but maybe enough twice or three times a week to offer mitigation after PCT.