Creatine, pre workout, while on test??!?

**getatme8484** · 12-22-2016, 02:29 PM

Getting ready to start my test cycle I was wondering if I should cut out the creatine and pre-workout while on my test?!?!? Also I take prescription painkillers 500mg Tramadol once daily from time to time should I cut those out as well thanks you guys .....

**Jonbana** · 12-22-2016, 02:32 PM

why would you stop creatine ?

**getatme8484** · 12-22-2016, 02:47 PM

I have read somewhere before that it is better to save for your post cycle therapy to help keep gains?? Is creatine a little rough on your liver ???

**DHew** · 12-22-2016, 02:59 PM

500mg of tramadol daily? 400mg is the max recommended dosage, after this seizures can occur.

**getatme8484** · 12-22-2016, 03:02 PM

Shit I meant 100 sorry

**getatme8484** · 12-22-2016, 03:03 PM

I do construction on top of working out so I get a bit sore sometimes and decide to take 100 mg of painkiller but I'm not sure if it's safe to take with test ??

**Mr.BB** · 12-22-2016, 04:07 PM

So are you addicted to strong painkillers? I would definitely try to lose this addiction regardless if on or off cycle.

And also consider that testosterone , or any cycle of steroids , can trigger addiction for steroids on predisposed individuals. You will need to have strict boundaries on the cycle time.

About creatine its pretty useless IMO, also it will increase DHT which is not good for you hair and prostate.

**01dragonslayer** · 12-22-2016, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by getatme8484

I do construction on top of working out so I get a bit sore sometimes and decide to take 100 mg of painkiller but I'm not sure if it's safe to take with test ??

I do the same and have not had any side effects. I usually dose my tram before going to bed as it helps a little with my insomnia.

**01dragonslayer** · 12-22-2016, 04:58 PM

IMO no need to cut out the creatine. I know some like to cycle off from time to time to clean their receptors.

**diesel101** · 12-22-2016, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Jonbana

why would you stop creatine ?

I was wondering why anyone would start using it

**Quester** · 12-22-2016, 08:15 PM

Past thoughts and research on the creatine/liver issue led me to the (now opinion) that drinking a lot of water will mitigate the issues involved with liver and kidneys.

**getatme8484** · 12-22-2016, 08:21 PM

Thanks guys for the replies, the creatine I was not to worried about, The paink killers either, As I am not a regular on those anyways, The Pre Workout is what I was a bit worried about!? Ill prob just cut that out.

**getatme8484** · 12-22-2016, 08:22 PM

Of course, but with Test already being hard on the liver? That said does not seem to be an issue like others have posted....

**Obs** · 12-22-2016, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by getatme8484

Getting ready to start my test cycle I was wondering if I should cut out the creatine and pre-workout while on my test?!?!? Also I take prescription painkillers 500mg Tramadol once daily from time to time should I cut those out as well thanks you guys .....

Lol! Typo I see. I have taken overdoses of tram before and it will kill you. Seven tram at once and you get a kick ass high. I mean that literally. You will want to kick ass bad. You can drink twelve beers and you wont feel anything but the tram. Next the drowsiness sets in. You will be looking at someone yelling and fall asleep. Then the bartender (big norweigan guy named Ty) will carry your ass out to the truck and smack your face and say "you alive?" Then your girlfriend and her brother will take you home and have hell getting your ass down the stairs to your bed. OR YOU WILL SKIP THESE STEPS AND SEIZE. I have never done this and I do not condone that kind of behavior. Bad bad bad for the liver.

**Quester** · 12-22-2016, 08:40 PM

All orals (AAS and otherwise) are harder on the liver than what God made. I've also heard that painkillers inhibit the growth process that occurs after a workout.

**Couchlock** · 12-22-2016, 08:45 PM

Guys tramadol is not a real painkiller.

It is the farthest thing from an opiate.

You want to relieve pain , take an opiate

Tramdol is bad all the way around.

Its like taking a harsh pro-hormone instead of real aas.

Tramadol= pro-hormone
Opiate = real aas.

I don't condone either, just educating.

Give a dope sick opiate junkie 15 trams, he's still going to be sick

Give him 3 es's he's better for a few

**Obs** · 12-22-2016, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Couchlockd

Guys tramadol is not a real painkiller.

It is the farthest thing from an opiate.

You want to relieve pain , take an opiate

Tramdol is bad all the way around.

Its like taking a harsh pro-hormone instead of real aas.

Tramadol= pro-hormone
Opiate = real aas.

I don't condone either, just educating.

Give a dope sick opiate junkie 15 trams, he's still going to be sick

Give him 3 es's he's better for a few

That is a fact. Tram is a mind fuck drug and thats where you get seizures. Brother is hopelessly addicted to oxycotin (prescription) he has tram too. When he runs out he triples up the tram but still stays sick. Yes, he has seizures. Tram is definitely bad news.

**Couchlock** · 12-22-2016, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke

That is a fact. Tram is a mind fuck drug and thats where you get seizures. Brother is hopelessly addicted to oxycotin (prescription) he has tram too. When he runs out he triples up the tram but still stays sick. Yes, he has seizures. Tram is definitely bad news.

Not to get off topic, opiates are horrible, I was a needle iv addicted heroin and morphine addict for a few years.

I hope your brother overcomes, ill pray for him brother.

I used to say.
"You think we are injecting drugs with this needle, no. We are extracting little bits of our souls with every shot"
I was the cynical bring you down depressed addict. Lol

But creatine, I take it....

**wellshii** · 12-22-2016, 09:20 PM

I would keep creatine ,drop painkillers. Damn come to think of it, I havnt taken an aspirin or any cold medicine since my mom used to give them to me. 20 years ago I believe.

**Obs** · 12-22-2016, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by Couchlockd

Not to get off topic, opiates are horrible, I was a needle iv addicted heroin and morphine addict for a few years.

I hope your brother overcomes, ill pray for him brother.

I used to say.
"You think we are injecting drugs with this needle, no. We are extracting little bits of our souls with every shot"
I was the cynical bring you down depressed addict. Lol

But creatine, I take it....

I appreciate that. Good job overcoming your addiction. You are a very successful guy, thats a great story.

**getatme8484** · 12-23-2016, 03:06 AM

Damn ok guys I see, As far as the pain killers go, I'd estimate I take about 5 a month lol!? But I have took more in the past. Depends on what I do at work that day or what they have me doing. My pain has nothing to do with lifting or anything, just labor. I'd say the only thing I am addicted to is Coffee , I Just wanted to see if there would be sides, Not trying to blow my heart up or burn my liver. I Know ASS in general can increase blood pressure etc. Was not to sure if Test does to the same degree? I know pre work out drinks would have to be bad news if you are on ASS?!? The Creatine, I was concerned with because did not want to overload my liver with Test already being hard on the liver, plus the Pain Killers would also have to be hard on the liver. I will just cut the Pain killers out all together and pre work out I suppose I'll cut out to?? But Looks Like I can stick with the creatine....

**charger69** · 12-23-2016, 09:50 AM

I have just been through some rigorous testing.
First off, both an endocrinologist and my Dr. adamantly state not to use creatine. With that being said, i had a BUN, creatinine, etc testing while taking creatine and one after being off for six weeks. The results were the same. This testing was more related to the kidneys (filters).
If you are concerned about the liver, take NAC. It is over the counter and cheap.

**Ashop** · 12-23-2016, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by getatme8484

Getting ready to start my test cycle I was wondering if I should cut out the creatine and pre-workout while on my test?!?!? Also I take prescription painkillers 500mg Tramadol once daily from time to time should I cut those out as well thanks you guys .....

You can take CREATINE pretty much when ever you want,,ON or OFF cycle.
I'd only use the TRAMADOL when absolutely needed.

**insanegainz101** · 12-23-2016, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke

I appreciate that. Good job overcoming your addiction. You are a very successful guy, thats a great story.

I am a x opioid addict myself it's very hard to overcome I will never forget the withdrawal I had to go through nobody should have to go through that I stayed sick for like 2 months and have been clean for over a year now something I will never go back to its horrible

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