Hi all,
OK newbie, be gentle.
38yrs old, Australia, 185cm, 14% BF, 93kgs. Had a history of weight problems since my teens on and off but been a healthy weight for 4 years. Training about 18months (though many times on and off in the past). Weight training 4-5 times a week, conventional type training 45min-1hr sessions (1-2 muscle groups per day via a PT - change programs monthly). 1-2 cardio sessions. Cals around 2400, high protein low carb. Decided I wanted more. Primary goals are to cut up and gain a little size (less fussed on size - priority is fat loss).
- Saw a 'Dr' for advice who is supposedly experienced in this field.
- After trying Hexarelin 0.25/day and SARM S22 0.25 post session only. Didnt think much of them. Did notice anything. Costly, decided to try some Test.
- Was initially given Sustanon 250, 250mg per week for 10 weeks (very low dose I know - i am the cautious type). Based on my research this seemed reasonable for a newbie.
- I was told to continue using Hex 0.25 every day and SARM S22 0.25 after training for the duration as this would help with the estrogen levels and coming off. (?)
- Asked about AI and PCT during/after this cycle, answer was stuff like Novolodex and Clomid etc is old news 1950's, hex and Sarms are the go for 40 days. Unless issues are noticed then maybe used this staff last resort.
- The first 2 injections of the test were ridiculous, I could barely walk let alone train (tried quad and then glute - both really bad and hard lump in the butt for over a week etc).
- He changed me to test enanthate 250mg 1 per week (basically the same) said it would be better for pain as maybe my body doesnt like the sustanon
- First injections of this were a little better, but progressively got better, barely notice it now (9 weeks in) so I suspect my body is used to it..?
- I ran out of the peptides after the first 4 weeks decided not to continue with those due to cost constraints
- I am 9 weeks in, have definitely gained some size and strength, not huge but I suspect relative to dose. I've noticed no side effects (yet)
- Had another consult. If I didnt want to continue test I should do Hex/SARMS for 40 days to bring natural test back. No need for the other stuff. If I want to continue test/hex/sarms I asked for alternative test option to help my goals of cutting up more, I suggested going back to sustanon 250 but he said he thinks I am allergic and to not do it. Suggest this 'Pro-Cyp 350mg/1L. Twice a week 350mg each time (Mon/Fri). Its basically a blend of Proponiate and cypionate (not sure of the ratio, I'll ask).
- I can't find much info about 'pro-cyp' or blends like this, the amount seems high, concerned about the PCT advice so am not keen on continuing until I get some alternative advice which led me here.
Questions;
1) Are Hex and SARM really a PCT option?
2) What is 'Pro-Cyp', or blends of these 2 types of test. Any thoughts/info on this?
3) Recommendations on next steps for me. I am ok to continue with low dose test but am concerned about the product and PCT advise. I am have a biggish chest relatively to my body size so the thought of Gyno freaks me out.
Thanks in advance!
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Originally Posted by Mr.BB
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