deca dick from july

**b4tm4n** · 12-27-2016, 06:05 AM

My last cycle was finished (included pct) in March

week 1- 250 mg sustanon , 200 mg boldenone

week 2- 250 mg sustanon, 400 mg boldenone

week 3-500 mg sustanon, 400 mg boldenone

week 4- 250 mg cypionate , 250 mg sustanon, 200 mg deca , 200 mg boldenone, tamox (20 mg ed)

week 5- 250 mg cypionate, 250 mg sustanon, 200 mg deca, 200 mg boldenone, tamox (20 mg ed)

week 6-500 mg cypionate, 400 mg deca, tamox (20mg ed)

week 7-500 mg cypionate, 400 mg deca, tamox (20mg ed)

week 8- 250 mg cypionate, 200 mg deca ,tamox (20 mg ed)

PCT ( I did not take free weeks before taking pct)

WEEK 1 : 20 mg of tamoxifene
WEEK 2 : 20 mg of tamoxifene, 500 ui HCG sunday, wednesday and friday
WEEK 3 : 20 mg of tamoxifene, 50 of clomifene every 12 hours
WEEK 4 : 20 mg of tamoxifene

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14 July

T3 - 0.78 (0,83-2.00) LOW

T4-5.67 (5,13-14.10)

TSH-2,750 (0,270-4,20)

FSH -4.51 (1,50-12.40)

LH - 9.24 (1.70-8.60) HIGH

estradiol - 33.58 (25.80-60.70)

progesterone 0.43 (<0.05-0.149) HIGH

prolactine -32.22 (4.04-15.20) HIGH

testosterone - 565 (249-836)

free testosterone 20,53 (1-28,58)

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19 of August

Iron 28 (5.8 -34.5)

ferritin 118.20 (30-400)

AST 25 (0-40)

ALT 38 (0-41)

total bilirubin 36.40 (0-21)

alkaline phosphatase 56 (40-130)

GGT 17 (0-60)

Urea 9.30 (2.76-8.07)

creatinine 96 (62-106)

Glucose 4.71 (3.90-5.50)

total cholesterol 3.69 (3.00-5.00)

HDL cholesterol 1.50 (>1)

LDL cholesterol 1.95

trygycerides 0.53 (<1.7)

C protein reactive 0.51 (0-5.00)

TSH 2.08 (0.270-4.200)

FT3 3.49 (2.04-4.40)

FT4 1.23 (0.93-1.71)

T3 0.97 (0.83-2.00)

T4 6.40 (5.13-14.10)

anti-TPO 6.61 (0.00-34.00)

anti-TG <10.00 (0-115)

TRAB <0.30 (<1.22)

thyroglobulin 15.42 (3.5-77)

FSH 5.53 (1.50-12.40)

LH 6.44 (1.70-8.60)

estradiol 40.83 (25.80-60.70)

progesterone 0.58 (<0.05-0.149) HIGH

prolactin 4.19 (4.04-15.20)

DHEA-S04 288.80 (88.9-427.0)

androstenedione 1.32 (0.60-3.10)

total testosterone 666.50 (249-836)

free testosterone 20.88 (1-28.28)

SHGB 43.07 (18.30-54.10)

CK 173 (0-190)

aldosterone 364,00 ( Lying 17.6 - 232.0 pg / ml 30 min after tilting - 25.2 - 392.0 pg ) HIGH

cortisol 22.76 ( hours. 7:00 - 10:00 - 6.2 - 19.4 mg / dL hours. 16:00 - 20:00 - 2.3 - 11.9 mg ) HIGH

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28 de Septiembre
progesterone 0.34 (<0.05-0.149) HIGH

prolactin 24.61 (4.04-15.20) HIGH

estradiol 30.93 (25.80-60.70)

free testosterone 18.28 (1-28.28)

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21 de Octubre

T3 - 1.03 (0,83-2.00)

T4- 7.10 (5,13-14.10)

TSH-2,270 (0,270-4,20)

FSH -4.57 (1,50-12.40)

LH - 7.30 (1.70-8.60)

estradiol - 41.13 (25.80-60.70)

progesterone 0.45 (<0.05-0.149) HIGH

prolactin - 6.62 (4.04-15.20)

free testosterone 17.91 (1-28,58)

testosterone total - 637.9 (249-836)

SHBG 50.25 (18.30-54.10)

DHEA 13.27 (1.80-12.50) HIGH

Cortisol 16.37 (4.82-19.5)

Aldosterone 382.89 (13,3 - 231,4 ) HIGH

PSA 0.429 (0.000-1.400)

Creatinine 102 (62.00-106.00)

---------------------------------------------
31 Octubre

Sodium 141 (136-145)
Potassium 4.4 (3.5-5.5)
Total calcium 2.49 (2.15-2.5)
Magnesium 0.84(0.66-1.07)
ACTH 43.4 (5-46)
Creatinine 105 (62-106)
Creatinine clearance rate 72.95 (>60)
Androstendione 1.86(0.60-3.10)
Progesterone 0.46 (0.05-0.149) HIGH
----------------------------------------------------
14 November
TSH 2.6 (0,27 - 4,2)
FT4 1.17 (0.93-1.71)
FSH 6.32 (1,5 - 12,4)
Prolactine 7.75 (4,04 - 15,2)
Progesterone 0.48 (<0.05-0.149) HIGH
Estradiol 25,8 - 30.11 (25,8 - 60,7)
Testosterone 648 (249 - 836)
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21 November

FSH -5.15 (1,50-12.40)

LH - 8.40 (1.70-8.60)

estradiol - 40.14 (25.80-60.70)

progesterone 0.50 (<0.05-0.149) HIGH

DHEA 5.06 (1.70-6.10)

prolactine -12.14 (4.04-15.20)

total testosterone - 648 (249-836)

free testosterone 18.08 (1-28,58)

Andostrendione 1.83 (0.60-3.10)

SHBG 20.42 (18.30-54.10)

ACTH 58.7 (5-46.00) HIGH

Cortisol 15.43 (4.82-19.5)

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13 January

T3 - 1.09 (0,83-2.00)

T4- 6.45 (5,13-14.10)

TSH-1.620 (0,270-4,20)

FT3 2.84 (2,04-4,40)

FT4 1.12(0.93-1.71)

FSH -4.90 (1,50-12.40)

LH - 7.48 (1.70-8.60)

estradiol – 34.96 (11.30-43.20)

progesterone 0.36 (<0.05-0.149)

prolactin – 12.61 (4.04-15.20)

free testosterone 13.62 (1-28,58)

testosterone total – 646.80 (249-836)

DHT 0.63 – (0.25-0.99)

17-Hidroxipregnenolone 4.10 (<4.55)

SHBG 53.45 (18.30-54.10)

Albumin 48.20 (35.0-52.0)

Aldosterone 202.6 (12.0 – 157.5 )

DHEA 6.26 (1.70-6.10)

ACTH 56.6 (5.00-46.00)

Cortisol 17.0 (4.82-19.5)

URINE

Catecholamines

Adrenaline 12.48 (<18 )

Noadrenaline 55.68 (<76 )

Dopamine 385.60 (<390 )

17-ketosteroids fractionated

Androsterone 3.98 (3.20-5.87)

Dehidropiandrosterone 0.95 (0.50-3.11)

Etiocholanolone 3.34 (1.50-5.00)

Free cortisol 86.6 (20-90)

17- hydroxycorticosteroids 5.56 (3.00-10.00)

Aldosterone 8.8

(35 - 80 mcg/24 h Sodium urine <20mmol/24

13 - 33 mcg/24 h Sodium urine 50mmol/24

5 - 24 mcg/24 h Sodium urine 100 mmol/24

3 - 19 mcg/24 h Sodium urine 150 mmol/24

1 - 16 mcg/24 h Sodium urine 200 mmol/24

1 - 13 mcg/24 h Sodium urine 250 mmol/24)

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I have good sex and erections until middle of July. From there I have problems with libido and erections. I think that it is about my progesterone and my bad pct. I did not take white weeks also

I am thinking to do a new cycle with test and winstrol for 6 weeks and to do a new pct (I don't like to have high lh also) like a restart of HTPA.

Which do you recommend me to decrease progesterone? I have read about abortion pill and danazol

What do you thinks guys? I am very desperated

thanks

**hammerheart** · 12-27-2016, 06:47 AM

Your progesterone might come from ACTH stimulation of adrenals. Cortisol also is released by them but response seems blunted, and that's why ACTH is on the high end, because the system is compensating.

I dunno, bc pills will do nothing other than shut down your HPTA. The only way I can figure out is to suppress ACTH with corticosteroids, which I don't abs recommend.

LH could be high-ish due to testes still underfunctioning, that means you are still recovering. Did you really run HCG for one week only? This is why it's recommended to run HCG the whole cycle. It could also be well another factor for high prog.

Curious to notice how deca affected your thyroid.

**Mr.BB** · 12-27-2016, 06:59 AM

You should test dht too.

As progesterone inhibit dht, I would try some proviron , or dht cream to see if there was any improvements.

**b4tm4n** · 12-27-2016, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

Your progesterone might come from ACTH stimulation of adrenals. Cortisol also is released by them but response seems blunted, and that's why ACTH is on the high end, because the system is compensating.

I dunno, bc pills will do nothing other than shut down your HPTA. The only way I can figure out is to suppress ACTH with corticosteroids, which I don't abs recommend.

LH could be high-ish due to testes still underfunctioning, that means you are still recovering. Did you really run HCG for one week only? This is why it's recommended to run HCG the whole cycle. It could also be well another factor for high prog.

Curious to notice how deca affected your thyroid.

Which do you recommend me then? another correct?

I need to do something. My problem was a bad pct and don't wait white weeks also. For this reason i am thinking to stop htpa (cycle) and doing new pct

I don't know if ACTH is connected with progesterone in my case because 31 of October ACTH was in range and progesterone was high

**b4tm4n** · 12-27-2016, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

You should test dht too.

As progesterone inhibit dht, I would try some proviron, or dht cream to see if there was any improvements.

I tested this week DHT. I am waiting results

I tried proviron (50-75 mg for two weeks) but progesterone did not move. I had better erections also

**Juced_porkchop** · 12-27-2016, 07:20 AM

I dont mean to be rude but you need to do alot more research about steroids before using them again.
just 2 points of many:
1)bold is pointless to use less than 15ish weeks or under 600mg ew
2)deca to be used mn 12 weeks
3) run test around 14 weeks, with an AI and wait a couple weeks before doing PCT.
4) use an AI not serm oncycle (in most cases)

there is alot of good info here so i hope it helps.

do you have blood work BEFORE doing the cycle? so you know what YOUR normal levels are, otherwise it makes it harder to look at bloods and see whats out of norm (for you).
I would rec CIA or viagra to have on hand incase need it. also something called Pramipexole and cabergoline might help prog/prolac levels.
it could even be as simple as you worrying about it since you didnt do the best pct causing more issues than is there. trust me the mind can mess up sexdrive and erections also.
I hope you figure it out.

**b4tm4n** · 12-27-2016, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by Juced_porkchop

I dont mean to be rude but you need to do alot more research about steroids before using them again.
just 2 points of many:
1)bold is pointless to use less than 15ish weeks or under 600mg ew
2)deca to be used mn 12 weeks
3) run test around 14 weeks, with an AI and wait a couple weeks before doing PCT.
4) use an AI not serm oncycle (in most cases)

there is alot of good info here so i hope it helps.

do you have blood work BEFORE doing the cycle? so you know what YOUR normal levels are, otherwise it makes it harder to look at bloods and see whats out of norm (for you).
I would rec CIA or viagra to have on hand incase need it. also something called Pramipexole and cabergoline might help prog/prolac levels.
it could even be as simple as you worrying about it since you didnt do the best pct causing more issues than is there. trust me the mind can mess up sexdrive and erections also.
I hope you figure it out.

Yes, I already knew those things mate but I had a pt and i did what he told me

Which do you recomend me then exactly? a new pct?

**songdog** · 12-27-2016, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by b4tm4n

Yes, I already knew those things mate but I had a pt and i did what he told me

Which do you recomend me then exactly? a new pct?

Maybe you should learn about wat you are doing and taking before you do anymore damage to your body.Knowledge is power bro.

**Mr.BB** · 12-27-2016, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by b4tm4n

I tested this week DHT. I am waiting results

I tried proviron (50-75 mg for two weeks) but progesterone did not move. I had better erections also

So, if you had better results why didn't you continue it?

**b4tm4n** · 12-28-2016, 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

So, if you had better results why didn't you continue it?

Will you do a new pct?

**Mr.BB** · 12-28-2016, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by b4tm4n

Will you do a new pct?

Of course not. Your test, LH and FSH are good, why mess it up?

**b4tm4n** · 12-28-2016, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Of course not. Your test, LH and FSH are good, why mess it up?

I see my LH very high for example. Could I decrease a bit? (I was thinking to use low dose HCG )

Which do you recommend me? i need to improve asap. My problem is the ED but i don't find out reason (if i don't know if it is connected with high progesterone)

I am thinking to take low dose hydrocortisone and to check if my adrenals are regulated a bit

I am thinking to use mifepristone or danazol to decrease progesterone althought hpta will be suprresed or to do a new cycle (trying to decrease progesterone for sure) like a restart htpa

I don't know that to do really. I am very dissapointed

**Mr.BB** · 12-28-2016, 07:17 AM

Supressing your LH will lower your testosterone , do you really want to do that?

IMO the mildier it is to take proviron , which has usually low effect on hpta, and wait to see if progestrone lowers.

Also the sensible thing to do is ultrasounds to check general health.

**b4tm4n** · 12-28-2016, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Supressing your LH will lower your testosterone , do you really want to do that?

IMO the mildier it is to take proviron , which has usually low effect on hpta, and wait to see if progestrone lowers.

Also the sensible thing to do is ultrasounds to check general health.

I have done two MRI : one hipofisis (I have a little adenoma-partial empty sella syndrome. For this reason I have a bit high prolactin) and spinal medulla ( I have two little herni disc and a bit inflamated medulla without affected nerves)

I have two ultrasounds: adrenals (all is ok) and testis (I have one varicocele)

I have also read that letrozole can lower progesterone. Would you use it?

**tuner** · 01-08-2017, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by b4tm4n

My last cycle was finished (included pct) in March

week 1- 250 mg sustanon , 200 mg boldenone

week 2- 250 mg sustanon, 400 mg boldenone

week 3-500 mg sustanon, 400 mg boldenone

week 4- 250 mg cypionate , 250 mg sustanon, 200 mg deca , 200 mg boldenone, tamox (20 mg ed)

week 5- 250 mg cypionate, 250 mg sustanon, 200 mg deca, 200 mg boldenone, tamox (20 mg ed)

week 6-500 mg cypionate, 400 mg deca, tamox (20mg ed)

week 7-500 mg cypionate, 400 mg deca, tamox (20mg ed)

week 8- 250 mg cypionate, 200 mg deca ,tamox (20 mg ed)

PCT ( I did not take free weeks before taking pct)

WEEK 1 : 20 mg of tamoxifene
WEEK 2 : 20 mg of tamoxifene, 500 ui HCG sunday, wednesday and friday
WEEK 3 : 20 mg of tamoxifene, 50 of clomifene every 12 hours
WEEK 4 : 20 mg of tamoxifene

----------------------------------------------------------

14 July

T3 - 0.78 (0,83-2.00) LOW

T4-5.67 (5,13-14.10)

TSH-2,750 (0,270-4,20)

FSH -4.51 (1,50-12.40)

LH - 9.24 (1.70-8.60) HIGH

estradiol - 33.58 (25.80-60.70)

progesterone 0.43 (<0.05-0.149) HIGH

prolactine -32.22 (4.04-15.20) HIGH

testosterone - 565 (249-836)

free testosterone 20,53 (1-28,58)

----------------------------------------

19 of August

Iron 28 (5.8 -34.5)

ferritin 118.20 (30-400)

AST 25 (0-40)

ALT 38 (0-41)

total bilirubin 36.40 (0-21)

alkaline phosphatase 56 (40-130)

GGT 17 (0-60)

Urea 9.30 (2.76-8.07)

creatinine 96 (62-106)

Glucose 4.71 (3.90-5.50)

total cholesterol 3.69 (3.00-5.00)

HDL cholesterol 1.50 (>1)

LDL cholesterol 1.95

trygycerides 0.53 (<1.7)

C protein reactive 0.51 (0-5.00)

TSH 2.08 (0.270-4.200)

FT3 3.49 (2.04-4.40)

FT4 1.23 (0.93-1.71)

T3 0.97 (0.83-2.00)

T4 6.40 (5.13-14.10)

anti-TPO 6.61 (0.00-34.00)

anti-TG <10.00 (0-115)

TRAB <0.30 (<1.22)

thyroglobulin 15.42 (3.5-77)

FSH 5.53 (1.50-12.40)

LH 6.44 (1.70-8.60)

estradiol 40.83 (25.80-60.70)

progesterone 0.58 (<0.05-0.149) HIGH

prolactin 4.19 (4.04-15.20)

DHEA-S04 288.80 (88.9-427.0)

androstenedione 1.32 (0.60-3.10)

total testosterone 666.50 (249-836)

free testosterone 20.88 (1-28.28)

SHGB 43.07 (18.30-54.10)

CK 173 (0-190)

aldosterone 364,00 ( Lying 17.6 - 232.0 pg / ml 30 min after tilting - 25.2 - 392.0 pg ) HIGH

cortisol 22.76 ( hours. 7:00 - 10:00 - 6.2 - 19.4 mg / dL hours. 16:00 - 20:00 - 2.3 - 11.9 mg ) HIGH

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28 de Septiembre
progesterone 0.34 (<0.05-0.149) HIGH

prolactin 24.61 (4.04-15.20) HIGH

estradiol 30.93 (25.80-60.70)

free testosterone 18.28 (1-28.28)

------------------------------------

21 de Octubre

T3 - 1.03 (0,83-2.00)

T4- 7.10 (5,13-14.10)

TSH-2,270 (0,270-4,20)

FSH -4.57 (1,50-12.40)

LH - 7.30 (1.70-8.60)

estradiol - 41.13 (25.80-60.70)

progesterone 0.45 (<0.05-0.149) HIGH

prolactin - 6.62 (4.04-15.20)

free testosterone 17.91 (1-28,58)

testosterone total - 637.9 (249-836)

SHBG 50.25 (18.30-54.10)

DHEA 13.27 (1.80-12.50) HIGH

Cortisol 16.37 (4.82-19.5)

Aldosterone 382.89 (13,3 - 231,4 ) HIGH

PSA 0.429 (0.000-1.400)

Creatinine 102 (62.00-106.00)

---------------------------------------------
31 Octubre

Sodium 141 (136-145)
Potassium 4.4 (3.5-5.5)
Total calcium 2.49 (2.15-2.5)
Magnesium 0.84(0.66-1.07)
ACTH 43.4 (5-46)
Creatinine 105 (62-106)
Creatinine clearance rate 72.95 (>60)
Androstendione 1.86(0.60-3.10)
Progesterone 0.46 (0.05-0.149) HIGH
----------------------------------------------------
14 November
TSH 2.6 (0,27 - 4,2)
FT4 1.17 (0.93-1.71)
FSH 6.32 (1,5 - 12,4)
Prolactine 7.75 (4,04 - 15,2)
Progesterone 0.48 (<0.05-0.149) HIGH
Estradiol 25,8 - 30.11 (25,8 - 60,7)
Testosterone 648 (249 - 836)
--------------------------------------------------
21 November

FSH -5.15 (1,50-12.40)

LH - 8.40 (1.70-8.60)

estradiol - 40.14 (25.80-60.70)

progesterone 0.50 (<0.05-0.149) HIGH

DHEA 5.06 (1.70-6.10)

prolactine -12.14 (4.04-15.20)

total testosterone - 648 (249-836)

free testosterone 18.08 (1-28,58)

Andostrendione 1.83 (0.60-3.10)

SHBG 20.42 (18.30-54.10)

ACTH 58.7 (5-46.00) HIGH

Cortisol 15.43 (4.82-19.5)

-------------------------------------------------

I have good sex and erections until middle of July. From there I have problems with libido and erections. I think that it is about my progesterone and my bad pct. I did not take white weeks also

I am thinking to do a new cycle with test and winstrol for 6 weeks and to do a new pct (I don't like to have high lh also) like a restart of HTPA.

Which do you recommend me to decrease progesterone? I have read about abortion pill and danazol

What do you thinks guys? I am very desperated

thanks

As I see you have partiallt empty sella syndrome. I got the same stuff. I think your Acth is constantly mildly elevated due to this syndrome. Beacuse CSF is pressing a bit pituitary.

If acth is elevated, than you have almost constatly elevated cortisol and dheaso4. People with high level of acth have high level of serotonine and histamine. If so, other neurotransmiters are depleted. In your case likelihood - dopamine, beacuse serotonine and dopamine are opposing. I think also acetyholine is depleted.
Acetylholine is responsible for erections
Dopmaine is responsible for libido.
There are some ways to check out. To solve this problem. I dont know if they will help you but they are worth try. They are working on neurotransmiters level so dont expect miracles.

To lower cortisol:Ashgwanda, vit c(ascorbic acid in high doses)
To increase acetylholine: choline + heuperizine
To increase dopamine

henylalanine. This should also lower a bit your prolactine level, beacuse when increasing dopamine,prolactine deplets.

Try this and use this stuff togheter, beacuse high cortisol will converse your phenylalanine very quickly to noradrenaline and adrenaline.

Do you have headaches ?

**b4tm4n** · 01-08-2017, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by tuner

As I see you have partiallt empty sella syndrome. I got the same stuff. I think your Acth is constantly mildly elevated due to this syndrome. Beacuse CSF is pressing a bit pituitary.

If acth is elevated, than you have almost constatly elevated cortisol and dheaso4. People with high level of acth have high level of serotonine and histamine. If so, other neurotransmiters are depleted. In your case likelihood - dopamine, beacuse serotonine and dopamine are opposing. I think also acetyholine is depleted.
Acetylholine is responsible for erections
Dopmaine is responsible for libido.
There are some ways to check out. To solve this problem. I dont know if they will help you but they are worth try. They are working on neurotransmiters level so dont expect miracles.

To lower cortisol:Ashgwanda, vit c(ascorbic acid in high doses)
To increase acetylholine: choline + heuperizine
To increase dopamine

henylalanine. This should also lower a bit your prolactine level, beacuse when increasing dopamine,prolactine deplets.

Try this and use this stuff togheter, beacuse high cortisol will converse your phenylalanine very quickly to noradrenaline and adrenaline.

Do you have headaches ?

Hi

I do not have headhaches

I checked my catecolamines (urine) 1 week ago

Adrenaline 12.48 mcg < 18 mcg
Noradrenaline 55.68 mcg < 76 mcg
Dopamine 385.60 mcg < 390 mcg

I thought that empty sella only increased prolactin

I think that my high acth is stress

I think that my problem is progesterone.
I will try danazol soon (with low doses testosterone ) although your advice will also check

What do you think about progesterone?

thanks

**tuner** · 01-09-2017, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by b4tm4n

Hi

I do not have headhaches

I checked my catecolamines (urine) 1 week ago

Adrenaline 12.48 mcg < 18 mcg
Noradrenaline 55.68 mcg < 76 mcg
Dopamine 385.60 mcg < 390 mcg

I thought that empty sella only increased prolactin

I think that my high acth is stress

I think that my problem is progesterone.
I will try danazol soon (with low doses testosterone ) although your advice will also check

What do you think about progesterone?

thanks

you can check 5-hiaa in 24 urine collection. it's serotonin metabolite.

My progesterone was always a bit elevated or in higher end. So, based on my observations it's elevated beacuse acth is higher then should be. But i don't want to be oracle. If you have strong beliefs and arguments that this will help you - try it. But for me it's always better to try first some lighter stuff, which I mentioned above(asgwanda etc.), check if this is helping you and if yes - follow the trail, if no you can always try something else.

And try to lower your prolactine.

**b4tm4n** · 01-20-2017, 08:47 AM

I have just uptaded with new blood tests and urine

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Hi, I continue with my problem of ED

I write here my last blood results and urine.
I have problems with my high adrenals hormones (acth, progesterone, dhea, aldosterone.) like you can check

For example there are different things that I don't understand:
17- hydroxycorticosteroids are mid level but free cortisol is in high level.
DHEA is high in blood but in 17-ketosteroids is low.

SHBG is a bit high because i was using t4 and t3. I will try to lower with proviron or avena xativa or like something that

What do you think guys? I am desperated

(In March I finished a cycle with deca that increased my progesterone. Then I don't know if this hormone is increasing the rest or not. Could it be the reason? (I have high adrenal hormones from July- I can also show you my other blood tests)

Which do you recommend me? try to lower cortisol, maybe? or using HC? I think that it is stress all

**b4tm4n** · 01-20-2017, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

Your progesterone might come from ACTH stimulation of adrenals. Cortisol also is released by them but response seems blunted, and that's why ACTH is on the high end, because the system is compensating.

I dunno, bc pills will do nothing other than shut down your HPTA. The only way I can figure out is to suppress ACTH with corticosteroids, which I don't abs recommend.

LH could be high-ish due to testes still underfunctioning, that means you are still recovering. Did you really run HCG for one week only? This is why it's recommended to run HCG the whole cycle. It could also be well another factor for high prog.

Curious to notice how deca affected your thyroid.

Hi bizzarro

Can you check my last blood tests and urine?

For example there are different things that I don't understand:
17- hydroxycorticosteroids are mid level but free cortisol is in high level.
DHEA is high in blood but in 17-ketosteroids is low.

(In March I finished a cycle with deca that increased my progesterone. Then I don't know if this hormone is increasing the rest or not. Could it be the reason? (I have high adrenal hormones from July- I can also show you my other blood tests)

or my problem is my high cortisol? would you try to lower cortisol with suplements or would you use hydrocortisone?

thanks in advance

**hammerheart** · 01-20-2017, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by b4tm4n

Hi bizzarro

Can you check my last blood tests and urine?

For example there are different things that I don't understand:
17- hydroxycorticosteroids are mid level but free cortisol is in high level.
DHEA is high in blood but in 17-ketosteroids is low.

(In March I finished a cycle with deca that increased my progesterone. Then I don't know if this hormone is increasing the rest or not. Could it be the reason? (I have high adrenal hormones from July- I can also show you my other blood tests)

or my problem is my high cortisol? would you try to lower cortisol with suplements or would you use hydrocortisone?

thanks in advance

DHEA is a marker of adrenal function and signals HPA overactivity, that is driven by ACTH which also is high and this suggest you might have a stress problem. Try whatever supp you think it might work for you. I'd recommend bio-available magnesium in the start and a good amount of Vit. C.

The reminder of your bloodwork looks unremarkable. As for sexual issues I cannot spot anything else wrong other than high SHBG. Your DHT is damn good despite average total T levels, however it has high affinity for SHBG and that means it might not be available to do its work where required (the brain).

**b4tm4n** · 01-22-2017, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

DHEA is a marker of adrenal function and signals HPA overactivity, that is driven by ACTH which also is high and this suggest you might have a stress problem. Try whatever supp you think it might work for you. I'd recommend bio-available magnesium in the start and a good amount of Vit. C.

The reminder of your bloodwork looks unremarkable. As for sexual issues I cannot spot anything else wrong other than high SHBG. Your DHT is damn good despite average total T levels, however it has high affinity for SHBG and that means it might not be available to do its work where required (the brain).

I will try to lower cortisol and to improve my thyroid also. Apart from my SHBG

Can be progesterone my problem?

I have read in different websites that it can create ED and low libido