Testostetone base (oil)

[Couchlock]

I will be using test oil base next cycle in august.

Its grape seed oil base test. No ester.

Is this stuff as thick as cyp?, can it get through a 27 or 30 guage pin?

If like to pin this in chest or bicep


Any of you guys use test base?

I picked oil base over water base, as sources description said oil was less painful than water....

[01dragonslayer]

I have cycled oil based test before and if I remember right it too was in grape seed oil. I always used a 25g will no probs...not too sure about anything smaller.

[Couchlock]

I have cycled oil based test before and if I remember right it too was in grape seed oil. I always used a 25g will no probs...not too sure about anything smaller.

I used a 25g for my cyp 250 in grape seed, I was wondering if esters made test thicker?

[Mr.BB]

Its the only test you are going to use?

TNE is not a sensible option to use as your testosterone in a cycle. You would have to pin twice a day to keep levels stable, and would still have strange peaks, promoting aromatization and reduction to DHT.

TNE (or test suspension) is to be used as a pre-workout, when you want to spice up one single training session.

Besides, the guaiacol smell gets old very fast. You would have a distinctive hospital smell leaving your pores everyday.

[Hazard]

Its the only test you are going to use? TNE is not a sensible option to use as your testosterone in a cycle. You would have to pin twice a day to keep levels stable, and would still have strange peaks, promoting aromatization and reduction to DHT. TNE (or test suspension) is to be used as a pre-workout, when you want to spice up one single training session. Besides, the guaiacol smell gets old very fast. You would have a distinctive hospital smell leaving your pores everyday.

^^^^ this

On another note.... I use 23g in pecs and bi's with no issues or pain

[Couchlock]

Its the only test you are going to use?

TNE is not a sensible option to use as your testosterone in a cycle. You would have to pin twice a day to keep levels stable, and would still have strange peaks, promoting aromatization and reduction to DHT.

TNE (or test suspension) is to be used as a pre-workout, when you want to spice up one single training session.

Besides, the guaiacol smell gets old very fast. You would have a distinctive hospital smell leaving your pores everyday.

Ill be using test e at 500 per week 1-12
Anavar at 50mg ed 3-12

[01dragonslayer]

I might add that I used TNE as a preworkout along with BNE appr. 30min. prior to hitting the gym for the reasons stated above.

[songdog]

Ill be using test e at 500 per week 1-12
Anavar at 50mg ed 3-12

50mg Var is pretty much a waste you did 35 last cycle.Bump it up to at least 75mg 100 would be better.

[Strongblood]

It's a good thing you got oil based Suspension instead of the freakin screaming bloody murder definition of mega pip water based test with the crystals that slash and cut everything in its path! Dang it my leg just started hurting again just thinking about it!
And as BB suggested, Suspension is not a good choice of Test for cycling. It's very hard to control estrogen with it. It is more of a pre workout substance.

[TRA]

It's a good thing you got oil based Suspension instead of the freakin screaming bloody murder definition of mega pip water based test with the crystals that slash and cut everything in its path! Dang it my leg just started hurting again just thinking about it!
And as BB suggested, Suspension is not a good choice of Test for cycling. It's very hard to control estrogen with it. It is more of a pre workout substance.

I wasn't clear with your post - are you saying the water based was painful?
That was some funny sh*t!

[Couchlock]

50mg Var is pretty much a waste you did 35 last cycle.Bump it up to at least 75mg 100 would be better.

Jesus, I'm only 150

That amount of var would cost me nearly $600 for 10 weeks!

He'll I just run masterone then

[Couchlock]

I might add that I used TNE as a preworkout along with BNE appr. 30min. prior to hitting the gym for the reasons stated above.

What us tne and bne?

[Couchlock]

My august cycle will be

1-12 test e 500mg
3-12 anavar 50mg ed or mast e 400 per week
1-12 hcg 500iu
Of course adex properly dosed
With a shot 50mg test base 3 times a week for chest, back, and bi/tri day


And standard pct
75/50/50/50 clom
40/20/20/20/20/10 nolv

I hate to ask here, but I can't spend 550$ on 75mg var ed for 10 weeks.

Is it worth 550 to run var or would it be better to run masterone at 400 mg per week for $200?

[Marsoc]

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[TRA]

I will be using test oil base next cycle in august.

Its grape seed oil base test. No ester.

Is this stuff as thick as cyp?, can it get through a 27 or 30 guage pin?

If like to pin this in chest or bicep


Any of you guys use test base?

I picked oil base over water base, as sources description said oil was less painful than water....

I just caught this - your next cycle isn't until August? Why is that if you don't mind me asking? If that is you in the avatar it looks like you are gtg for the love of chr*st with about no BF. I could eat a piece of jerky and a grapefruit a day for a year and not look like that....like ever. Just curious what the hold up is. You should post up pics when done - would be good to see the cycle results, regardless of when you do it...

[Strongblood]

I wasn't clear with your post - are you saying the water based was painful? That was some funny sh*t!

Lol! Yes TrailRunsAZ, I got some water based Test Suspension Ampules about 3 weeks ago and it hurt like holy hell! Only oil based for me!

[Couchlock]

I just caught this - your next cycle isn't until August? Why is that if you don't mind me asking? If that is you in the avatar it looks like you are gtg for the love of chr*st with about no BF. I could eat a piece of jerky and a grapefruit a day for a year and not look like that....like ever. Just curious what the hold up is. You should post up pics when done - would be good to see the cycle results, regardless of when you do it...

I finished my first, 16 weeks test,

Gained from 135-140 to 155.

I'm waiting because I'm paranoid hypochondriac and am doing it right, time on plus pct= time off.

I got pics of me in the thread

"Ending cycle Monday"

And ps, how'd you know my diet of jerky n grapefruit?

[Couchlock]

I finished my first, 16 weeks test,

Gained from 135-140 to 155.

I'm waiting because I'm paranoid hypochondriac and am doing it right, time on plus pct= time off.

I got pics of me in the thread

"Ending cycle Monday"

And ps, how'd you know my diet of jerky n grapefruit?

Anyone here ran tne during a cycle? Does it affect the AI dosing protocol?

[01dragonslayer]

Anyone here ran tne during a cycle? Does it affect the AI dosing protocol?

When I cycled TNE preworkout at 100mg I did not up my AI does and had no probs. I might add that I only cycled it on my strength training days.

[cousinmuscles]

When I cycled TNE preworkout at 100mg I did not up my AI does and had no probs. I might add that I only cycled it on my strength training days.

Could you tell us of the effects? How much of a difference than without TNE? How long pre workout did you take it? Thanks

[01dragonslayer]

Could you tell us of the effects? How much of a difference than without TNE? How long pre workout did you take it? Thanks

I injected 100mgTNE/100mgBNE usually in my tris about 45-60min prior strength training. It seemed like my aggression was slightly elevated but not too sure....may have a placebo effect. I will say that I got a tremendous pump, muscles were much fuller and made me extremely vascular. It seemed I could push through those one or two extra reps where I would normally plateau. The half-life is very short with both.

It makes me interested in trying some other no ester compounds...tren , nandrolone .

[Marsoc]

I just seen tren no ester. Wtf would that be like lol

[Couchlock]

I injected 100mgTNE/100mgBNE usually in my tris about 45-60min prior strength training. It seemed like my aggression was slightly elevated but not too sure....may have a placebo effect. I will say that I got a tremendous pump, muscles were much fuller and made me extremely vascular. It seemed I could push through those one or two extra reps where I would normally plateau. The half-life is very short with both.

It makes me interested in trying some other no ester compounds...tren, nandrolone.

How's the pain injecting tris?

Fwiw, mine is oils base, not water.

Do you have an injection guide for bicep and triceps injection?
Biceps are my trouble area

[< <Samson> >]

Oh, I'd love me some TNE right now

I use to spike up 100mg about an hour prior to working out. It'd take a bit to kick in. So, after an hour of lifting I'd feel like I could go for another hour.


Mine was always oil based - fvck spiking up water based anything

[DocToxin8]

Anyone here ran tne during a cycle? Does it affect the AI dosing protocol?

I used water based TNE. It was micronized so I used a slin syringe.
Usually took 50mg SubQ before a workout.
It was VERY noticeable!
Obviously it was absorbed very fast.
I'd even say it was better than halo as a PWO.
(Less side effects)

But the taste!
When injected SubQ (even) or IM,
I got the taste in my mouth within minutes.

Like I've said before, it reminded me of the moonshine version of test.
Dirty and effective.

Used it about 4-5x a week, and that provides a considerable bonus overall.

[Couchlock]

I used water based TNE. It was micronized so I used a slin syringe.
Usually took 50mg SubQ before a workout.
It was VERY noticeable!
Obviously it was absorbed very fast.
I'd even say it was better than halo as a PWO.
(Less side effects)

But the taste!
When injected SubQ (even) or IM,
I got the taste in my mouth within minutes.

Like I've said before, it reminded me of the moonshine version of test.
Dirty and effective.

Used it about 4-5x a week, and that provides a considerable bonus overall.

I got 2000mg worth.

I want to use 75mg pre workout ex a week for 12 weeks

[01dragonslayer]

How's the pain injecting tris?

Fwiw, mine is oils base, not water.

Do you have an injection guide for bicep and triceps injection?
Biceps are my trouble area

Oil based....no pain.....or I should say no more discomfort from any other injection.

Never injected bi s for preworkout. For tri s it was always the high part of rear head...the 'meaty' part of my tri.

If your asking about spot injection for growth?....did not really experience any. I'm with ya....I can't get my bi s to grow the way I want either.

[Couchlock]

Oil based....no pain.....or I should say no more discomfort from any other injection.

Never injected bi s for preworkout. For tri s it was always the high part of rear head...the 'meaty' part of my tri.

If your asking about spot injection for growth?....did not really experience any. I'm with ya....I can't get my bi s to grow the way I want either.

What type of syringe did you inject tri's with.?

I'm thinking of trying a 29 or 30g 1/2" skin pin back loaded.

Thoughts ?

[01dragonslayer]

What type of syringe did you inject tri's with.?

I'm thinking of trying a 29 or 30g 1/2" skin pin back loaded.

Thoughts ?

I used a 25g 5/8" needle without any probs.

29 or 30 may work depending on the carrier.

[Couchlock]

I used a 25g 5/8" needle without any probs.

29 or 30 may work depending on the carrier.

Its grape seed oil. Seems thinner than the test e 500 I got

[01dragonslayer]

Its grape seed oil. Seems thinner than the test e 500 I got

I believe my carrier was grape seed as well and it was pretty stubborn goin' through a 29g. You could try it....see how it works.

[PT1982]

How's the pain injecting tris?

Fwiw, mine is oils base, not water.

Do you have an injection guide for bicep and triceps injection?
Biceps are my trouble area

Dude! You gotta pin tris. I freaking love it. Tne can be awesome pre-workout, but it's really not anything worth blowing money on when you could save that for more var. But try the tris and let me know what you think. I usually do tris only unless I'm on blast, then I'll do delts too. I hate quads and biceps.

[PT1982]

I used water based TNE. It was micronized so I used a slin syringe.
Usually took 50mg SubQ before a workout.
It was VERY noticeable!
Obviously it was absorbed very fast.
I'd even say it was better than halo as a PWO.
(Less side effects)

But the taste!
When injected SubQ (even) or IM,
I got the taste in my mouth within minutes.

Like I've said before, it reminded me of the moonshine version of test.
Dirty and effective.

Used it about 4-5x a week, and that provides a considerable bonus overall.

Lol! That's hilarious. SubQ is best in my opinion as well as long as the needle don't clog. I've had to use 23g before with tne subQ. It wasn't terrible, but I'm a chicken with needles. I wonder if it was guaicol you tasted? This makes me want to experiment.

[Couchlock]

Dude! You gotta pin tris. I freaking love it. Tne can be awesome pre-workout, but it's really not anything worth blowing money on when you could save that for more var. But try the tris and let me know what you think. I usually do tris only unless I'm on blast, then I'll do delts too. I hate quads and biceps.

I love pinning quads, ran my whole 16 weeker in quads exclusively.

My test base was cheap. 38 per 10ml. My var is expensive 100 for 1000mg.

[PT1982]

I love pinning quads, ran my whole 16 weeker in quads exclusively.

My test base was cheap. 38 per 10ml. My var is expensive 100 for 1000mg.

I did them over Christmas this past year. It's my last time! My family though something was seriously wrong, and it kind of was. I got a severe case of cellulitis that started at the injection site and slowly worked itself down my leg in streaks. I was bed ridden for 3 days! I missed my Christmas with the family. But like you, I have many friends that use quads exclusively and love it. I am amazed on the daily at how different each person's body is.

[Couchlock]

I did them over Christmas this past year. It's my last time! My family though something was seriously wrong, and it kind of was. I got a severe case of cellulitis that started at the injection site and slowly worked itself down my leg in streaks. I was bed ridden for 3 days! I missed my Christmas with the family. But like you, I have many friends that use quads exclusively and love it. I am amazed on the daily at how different each person's body is.

I just can't reach my ass good enough to properly aspirate and hold it steady and inject (not because I'm huge, I just am not flexible much like that) and I feel some weird paranoia about hitting a nerve and breaking the needle off.

I know, 50x the amount of nerves in quads.

[DocToxin8]

Lol! That's hilarious. SubQ is best in my opinion as well as long as the needle don't clog. I've had to use 23g before with tne subQ. It wasn't terrible, but I'm a chicken with needles. I wonder if it was guaicol you tasted? This makes me want to experiment.

Yeah, SubQ is great as a quick go to spot. And with the TNE it was perfect, as absorption were allready so quick. It was very small particles. I've used winstrol that's clogged even 25G needles, but this TNE never clogged a 29G insulin syringe.
The taste, yeah. I don't know how guaiacol smells like, never did homebrew.
But the smelll and taste was very distinct.
It smellled very strong. The empty vial smelled so much that opening a big plastic bag with the vial in it was instantly smellable.

So it felt like quite toxic shit due to the amount of what I guess is preservatives.
But it kicked in fast. Extremely fast.

I'd actually take that formulation of TNE over halo as strongest CNS booster.

I wonder if the TNE in oil is absorbed as fast.

[Couchlock]

Yeah, SubQ is great as a quick go to spot. And with the TNE it was perfect, as absorption were allready so quick. It was very small particles. I've used winstrol that's clogged even 25G needles, but this TNE never clogged a 29G insulin syringe.
The taste, yeah. I don't know how guaiacol smells like, never did homebrew.
But the smelll and taste was very distinct.
It smellled very strong. The empty vial smelled so much that opening a big plastic bag with the vial in it was instantly smellable.

So it felt like quite toxic shit due to the amount of what I guess is preservatives.
But it kicked in fast. Extremely fast.

I'd actually take that formulation of TNE over halo as strongest CNS booster.

I wonder if the TNE in oil is absorbed as fast.

So doc, TNE is fine sub q? Even oil base? In aware of oil test esters possibly causing infection due to oil sitting in fat just sitting there and body sending antibodies to attack foreign substance?

I prob will pin delts and tri's but I hate pinches, my quad injections take about a good minute to get in deep enough, I go insanely slow

[PT1982]

Yeah, SubQ is great as a quick go to spot. And with the TNE it was perfect, as absorption were allready so quick. It was very small particles. I've used winstrol that's clogged even 25G needles, but this TNE never clogged a 29G insulin syringe.
The taste, yeah. I don't know how guaiacol smells like, never did homebrew.
But the smelll and taste was very distinct.
It smellled very strong. The empty vial smelled so much that opening a big plastic bag with the vial in it was instantly smellable.

So it felt like quite toxic shit due to the amount of what I guess is preservatives.
But it kicked in fast. Extremely fast.

I'd actually take that formulation of TNE over halo as strongest CNS booster.

I wonder if the TNE in oil is absorbed as fast.

Oh don't get me started on water-based winny! That lasted about a week before I just started drinking it. I'll bet it was the gua. When that stuff even gets on my hands I taste it. A lot like dmso does.