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01-05-2017, 05:04 PM #1Associate Member
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Can I use this pre-loaded syringe later?
So I was prepping for my biweekly injection when I had some unexpected visitors show up to my house. I already drew 300mg of Test-E into the syringe before they arrived, so I capped it, placed it in a ziplock, and put in a cool place for later use.
Would this still be useable in about 8 hours?
I wasn't sure if there was an issue with contamination, or whatever. The needle is still capped but the syringe is out of it's sterile packing. I also warmed up the test a little, not anticipating that I wouldn't be able to pin it immediately.
Thanks for your help guys.
~Coffee
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01-05-2017, 05:08 PM #2
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of course brother your good...
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01-05-2017, 05:13 PM #3
Preloading isn't a good idea beacuse the plunger will start to break down with the compounds.This can cause some bad juju bro and leave you with a bad abcess.
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01-05-2017, 05:16 PM #4
The test solution, provided sterile techniques were used effectively when drawing the oil, should still be good 8 hours later. If it was warmed a little and cooled quickly back again, and little/no bacteria were present during drawing, oil with benzyl alcohol isn't a good medium for growing bacteria so I would think it ok. I've used test from the same syringe on consecutive days myself without a problem but this practice should be tried to avoided if possible.
And when used be very liberal with the anti bac alcohol and wash your hands, amps/vials (with a isopropyl alc cloth, like pre injection swabs)
and ensure as high level of sterility as possible.
Do not reuse needles. Not for injecting or drawing up liquid/oil.
So change needle in your case (since it was opened, why take any risk?),
and I would say ok. But as always, do it at your own peril.
If the oil had a high bacteria count to begin with or you were sloppy, it's a risk.
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01-05-2017, 05:19 PM #5
All the things I said would apply to any injection though. Bit of a rant. Short answer is ok.
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01-05-2017, 05:41 PM #6Associate Member
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Thanks for your help guys. I think I should take the cautious route and redraw later tonight. Would rather not have a nasty abcess or injected any contaminated oil.
It looks like I'll just slightly reduce my test per week rather than reduce my cycle by one week. It is what it is I suppose. I've already had some unfortunate luck with wasting test when using ampules. Never again.
Sigh.
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01-05-2017, 06:28 PM #7Banned
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01-05-2017, 06:32 PM #8
I pre load all my stuff. No more than 4-5 days out though.
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01-05-2017, 07:47 PM #9Associate Member
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01-05-2017, 07:48 PM #10Associate Member
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01-05-2017, 07:51 PM #11
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01-06-2017, 09:25 AM #12
I've mailed preloaded syringes so I'd have gear when I got there. The longest duration I've preloaded was for a 14 day vacation. Everything was GTG with no complications. BTW, the stuff that really breaks down the rubber in the syringe is Ethyl Oleate. That's the stuff added to gear to make it "painless". In short esters, "painless" means you hobble around only for two days instead of a week. LOL
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01-06-2017, 09:41 AM #13
My post was a bit on the safe side.
As I said, 8 hours, no problem.
But when people preload their syringes for use 14 days later,
(No offense to scotchguard, I'm sure he uses sterile techniques as you always should), that's when I've heard about issues.
My endo follows this rule about preloading hCG , and that's water based and much more likely to grow bacteria; preload for one week at a time.
(Due to the Pregnyl coming in amps of 5000u.)
So he told me use for one week and throw away the rest.
Ofcourse I've tried using it beyond a week also, even up to two weeks,
And I've never had an abscess in my life.
It just that some people do dumb shit like using the same needle over and over again to draw up the oil. (They figure it isn't used if it isn't used to inject into skin/muscle), and while even that usually don't result in problems,
Let's say u use a unsterile needle to preload syringes (or unsterile anything) and preload for weeks at a time. It will usually be ok, until the day when it ain't
But as stated, Oil isn't a good medium for bacteria. And the added benzyl alcohol reduces growth even more.
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01-06-2017, 10:54 AM #14
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01-06-2017, 11:09 AM #15
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I pre-load my shots the afternoon the day before I inject so when I wake up at 2-3 am I can just stumble into my bathroom and take the syringe and wipes in the ziplock bag I store it in....instead of it taking 10-15 mins I'm done in like 3...that's helpful when you need to get to work on time....so the shot is in the barrel for like 12 hrs...this has been my protocol for years and ive never had any issues ever...2cents...
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01-06-2017, 01:42 PM #16Associate Member
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Alright, I did it. Although I slept on it and did it first thing in the AM so it was about 18 hours.
If my leg falls off, y'all be sorry.
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01-06-2017, 03:30 PM #17
I have 3 weeks of test, tren , deca , preloaded now. Never had any issues but I am sure its possible. Its so damn convinient to walk by my little box and grap a gtg pin and alc pad and yell for the girlfriend. She rolls her eyes enough about it so I try not to spend forever dosing it up right in her face. As doctox said though i alcohol wipe everything. I even wipe my pins before I stick em.
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01-06-2017, 03:42 PM #18
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01-06-2017, 03:57 PM #19
Interesting... I will look into that. I figure it is going to kill any bacteria and that is all I care about. I only do it because I dont like sticking my vial, letting the pin sit three weeks covered in oil and whatever bacteria has collected from the air, then poking myself. I figure once the package is open its no longer sterile. My attempts are to make it so. Knock on wood I have never had an infection.
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01-06-2017, 04:05 PM #20
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01-06-2017, 04:14 PM #21
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01-06-2017, 07:56 PM #22
I also read that it was a bad practice to wipe. Stopped years ago.
I am going to more frequent injections so I am going to try premixing in a vial and using a larger size to draw.
Why can't you use the drawing needle again? What about storing it submerged in alcohol?
Can you reuse a vial?
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01-06-2017, 08:37 PM #23
I have reused pins and barrels. I had no choice so I sterilized them. Which is dumb, but I did it many times long ago. They are cheap and meant to be used once but they can be sterilized and reused. The way I see preloading: if i have a choice between injecting a micron, sterile, cotton fiber or 150,000 cfu of god knows what bacteria... I will choose the fiber.
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01-07-2017, 09:46 AM #24Banned
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So, OP
how'd it go?
No pip? No lump?
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