Tren A, Test 400, DMZ

[Buck Ruckus]

This is what I am running on a 12 week cycle. Just getting started and have a few questions.

Test 400- 300mg every 3.5 days

Tren A- 50mg EOD

DMZ- 16mg 2x daily

HuCoG- 250 I.U. every 3.5 days

Arimidex - 0.25mg EOD


1. Mainly I would like to hear all your thoughts on the DMZ. Is it a waste? Might as well use it if I have it? Throw it in the trash?

2. My HUCOG came in liquid form. package and bottle both show 5000I.U./1ML. So I believe 5 units on slin pin should give me my 250I.U.

3. I am also wanting to make sure that recommended doses for HCG and HUCOG are the same. I believe they are similar compounds just taken from different sources.


Any and all comments welcome.
Thanks.

[DocToxin8]

Never tried DMZ.

HUCOG and hCG are the same thing yes.
5000u in 1ml of liquid:
100u = 5000
10u = 500
5u = 250
Your math is correct.
When I say 100u i mean 100u on the insulin syringe, which gives 5000u of hCG.

[Marcus G]

12 weeks seams a little long to be using tren ace, just my opinion.

[Mr.BB]

12 weeks seams a little long to be using tren ace, just my opinion.

x2..

[ghettoboyd]

12 weeks seams a little long to be using tren ace, just my opinion.

I agree as well....for me 8 weeks of the short esters and I'm begging to get out...yea I'm a pussy lol...

[Buster Brown]

The old DMZ was decent and I'm not sure what the latest version has in it as it has changed quite a few times. I would only use it as a kickstart and plan 4 weeks TOPS with it. I experienced shortness of breathe, high blood pressure and overall lethargy towards the end of the 4th week. There are orals with less sides and in the future I would look in that direction.

[Buck Ruckus]

Never tried DMZ.

HUCOG and hCG are the same thing yes.
5000u in 1ml of liquid:
100u = 5000
10u = 500
5u = 250
Your math is correct.
When I say 100u i mean 100u on the insulin syringe, which gives 5000u of hCG.

I appreciate your response. Thank you

[Buck Ruckus]

12 weeks seams a little long to be using tren ace, just my opinion.

How long would you recommend? Switch to tren prop to finsh the 12 week cycle or swap to something different like Deca ? Only looking to gain mass during this cycle.
Thanks.

[Buster Brown]

You could drop the tren A and Tes 400 at 10 weeks and hop on Prop for two weeks then start PCT at 3 days after OR drop the tren at 10 weeks, stay on the Tes 400 for two more weeks and start PCT two weeks after last pin on the Tes 400. The only advantage hoping on the prop the last two weeks is starting your PCT sooner. I dont really think your post cycle results will be better or worse one way or another.

[Marcus G]

How long would you recommend? Switch to tren prop to finsh the 12 week cycle or swap to something different like Deca ? Only looking to gain mass during this cycle.
Thanks.

You could switch to tren e and do 10 weeks but I'd just leave ace in there for 6-8 I prefer 6. and tren will give you great mass gains if your diet is correct

[tice1212]

I agree as well....for me 8 weeks of the short esters and I'm begging to get out...yea I'm a pussy lol...

x2..

12 weeks seams a little long to be using tren ace, just my opinion.

Why do u guys feel that way with tren . What seems to happen to u guys after the 8wk mark?

[Marcus G]

For me with tren ace I just seem to get very little benefit past 7/8 weeks so I don't see the point of injecting something for the side effects.

[DHew]

I made this log on DMZ a few years ago. Check it out:
DMZ Log

Hope that answers any of your DMZ questions.

[ghettoboyd]

Why do u guys feel that way with tren. What seems to happen to u guys after the 8wk mark?

for me its the pip and the pinning it just gets old eod...I find short esters to be painful... as far as the tren I'm literally jumping out of my skin it just eventually turns me into a different person so its time to jump off...I quit tren for a few years but used it again this last summer with prop and mast the cycle was great results wise but like I said it just got uncomfortable physically and mentaly...