Mid Cycle Bloods - (500mg Test w/ 3 weeks Tbol)

[Coffeehead]

So I'm still awaiting my bloods even though I got them done Thursday AM last week. In the meantime I'm sweating it out because I've been having trouble sleeping lately, and now just got my blood pressure reading done.

152/83 <---WOW

Is that normal for mid-cycle? I don't have a history of HBP, but this is pretty damn high in my experience.

Hopefully my blood panel doesn't come back all fuked up. I'm enjoying the cycle a lot, but If a bunch of red flags pop up I'm gonna need someone to talk me away from the ledge (not literally). Each day that passes with no BW results is brutal...and it's taking longer than usual.

*exhales*

Will post the BW results when they come in. Until then...we wait.

~ Coffee

[Marcus G]

Diet plays a major part on elevated BP, do you do any cardio?

[Coffeehead]

Diet plays a major part on elevated BP, do you do any cardio?

Negative. So it sounds like this is abnormally high even for being on cycle?

I'm slightly limited in my ability to do cardio. Oddly enough I can squat, DL, and do various leg exercises, but I'm not running yet (recovering from a knee injury).

I've got battle ropes in my possession, and I can hop on a stationary bike as well. I'd like to think that would suffice for cardio.

[Couchlock]

Negative. So it sounds like this is abnormally high even for being on cycle?

I'm slightly limited in my ability to do cardio. Oddly enough I can squat, DL, and do various leg exercises, but I'm not running yet (recovering from a knee injury).

I've got battle ropes in my possession, and I can hop on a stationary bike as well. I'd like to think that would suffice for cardio.

Dude, you better get on a recumbent or stationary.

Cardio does not have to be running. I don't run (I don't have to, I don't move fast for no body. Lol)

But seriously, you stated your bf was about 20% or so. You need cardio on cycle.

I had my blood pressure get pretty high, never high second number like that, but high from my pre cycle numbers.

Stay away from simple carbs like breads and such, they also play a serious role in high cholesterol and BP on cycle.

If you got a bike, ride it here n there.

Fwiw, I smoked ciggs on my cycle. I struggle my ass off to quit. Its the toughest enemy I've ever faced. Not that it has anything to do with your situation. But I did a few unhealthy things on cycle (cigarettes actually only things I did bad).

Do that cardio please i know, it sucks balls. I like to play Tetris while on a stationary, 45 mins flys by if you do something other than stare at a stopwatch or clock waiting for it to end

[Boneslapper2002]

OP I have had something similar however I was not on cycle but as Marcus said cardio is the key because it was for me, hopefully your BW comes back ok if not then there could be other issues going on.

[Coffeehead]

Dude, you better get on a recumbent or stationary.

Cardio does not have to be running. I don't run (I don't have to, I don't move fast for no body. Lol)

But seriously, you stated your bf was about 20% or so. You need cardio on cycle.

I had my blood pressure get pretty high, never high second number like that, but high from my pre cycle numbers.

Stay away from simple carbs like breads and such, they also play a serious role in high cholesterol and BP on cycle.

If you got a bike, ride it here n there.

Fwiw, I smoked ciggs on my cycle. I struggle my ass off to quit. Its the toughest enemy I've ever faced. Not that it has anything to do with your situation. But I did a few unhealthy things on cycle (cigarettes actually only things I did bad).

Do that cardio please i know, it sucks balls. I like to play Tetris while on a stationary, 45 mins flys by if you do something other than stare at a stopwatch or clock waiting for it to end

Appreciate the reply. I'm probably much closer to 15%, not 20%. I thought I was a little higher when I started, but I appear to have leaned out a bit.

I'm not opposed to cardio, I just underestimated the effect the lack of would have on my BP. Now I know...

[Mr.BB]

The most obvious thing you need to do to control BP, is stop drinking coffee

[kelkel]

The most obvious thing you need to do to control BP, is stop drinking coffee

Definitly on any day you're getting your BP measured!

[Marcus G]

Negative. So it sounds like this is abnormally high even for being on cycle?

I'm slightly limited in my ability to do cardio. Oddly enough I can squat, DL, and do various leg exercises, but I'm not running yet (recovering from a knee injury).

I've got battle ropes in my possession, and I can hop on a stationary bike as well. I'd like to think that would suffice for cardio.

You avoided the diet question so I'm assuming it's not very good. Cardio doesn't mean running steady walk on treadmill or use a bike. You should try these things while you wait for your results. And if you drink a lot of caffeine then cut it down.

[Couchlock]

I used to do this.

After a workout later in the day, when your glad its over and relaxing watching tv. My mind used to say "TV, HUH? Get down there and do that workout you just finished a few hours ago, all over again".

Don't be satisfied with enough, want more.

That's what separates average from above average

[Coffeehead]

You avoided the diet question so I'm assuming it's not very good. Cardio doesn't mean running steady walk on treadmill or use a bike. You should try these things while you wait for your results. And if you drink a lot of caffeine then cut it down.

Well, the way you phrased it there wasn't a diet question in there. You just said diet plays a big part of elevated BP. I agree.

My diet admittedly has not been spectacular. I had a couple weeks where I ate a little too loosely over the holidays. What exactly do you want to know...macros? Food choices?

Macros:

Calories: 3600-3700
Fat: <50g
Carbs: 525g
Protein: 275g

Proteins:
Egg Whites
Chicken Breast
Ground Turkey (93/7)
Salmon
Pork Tenderloin
Lean Ham (5%)
Whey Isolate

Carbs:
Oatmeal
Greek Yogurt (non-fat)
White Rice
Bagels/English Muffins
Pasta (w/ LF red-sauce only)
Black Beans
Kodiak Cakes (protein-packed)
Bananas
Grapes
Apples

Fats
Fish Oil
Olive Oil
Avocado (rarely since fats are low)
Parmesan Cheese (used rarely and sparingly when eating pasta)

Veggies
Broccoli
Asparagus
Spinach
Green Beans
Artichokes
Green/red/yellow Bell Peppers
Mushrooms

*All veggies are fresh

Hopefully that gives you a better idea.

[Marcus G]

Great that's plenty of info so did you know what your BP was before the holidays? It could just be as simple as elevated Estrogen levels causing water retention thus causing BP issues (blood work will show this) . But if your BP was OK before the holidays then it could just be down to not enough cardio and lose dieting (as you put it it) over the last few weeks..

[Coffeehead]

Great that's plenty of info so did you know what your BP was before the holidays? It could just be as simple as elevated Estrogen levels causing water retention thus causing BP issues (blood work will show this) . But if your BP was OK before the holidays then it could just be down to not enough cardio and lose dieting (as you put it it) over the last few weeks..

Damn mdprivatelabs taking forever on my BW. Officially been one week since it was drawn. Sigh...

OK - Good to know! I didn't check my BP before the holidays, but I know I don't have a history of HBP. This was the highest I've seen it by far. I may have hit 130/80 (ish) on a couple occasions, but generally it's a little better than that.

I tightened the diet up considerably since the new year. So much that I can't even gain anymore and I've leaned out by 5 lbs, and my pants are starting to fit again. Heh. I guess eating a little bit of junk food helped me stay in a surplus. Gotta up the intake and finish this cycle out strong.

Of course, assuming there are no significant problems with my BW.